Shogun total war seppuku vid
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Shamefur of Dispray!
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I learned about samurais and how they commit seppuku when the samurai brings shame or dishonor to the samurai troop, they say it's a glorious death,
die failing instead of living with the shame and guilt he feels.
I know that seppuku is a drastic measure as far as punishments are concerned. I tell you, if it was America! Seppuku would not be tolerated.
OUCH! Belly Cutting, how painful! No wonder the samurais were
beheaded. OOOOWWWHHHHH< pain!
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You people that are discussing "sucide is against religion" should really read the "good" book abit more. It never mentions the word sucide once.... It just says, and this is a rough interpertation , "god gave you live and it is for him to end it", which people then interupt as that you may not end your own life.
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There was also a Jewish priest named Josephus who lead a rebellion against the Roman Empire in the year 68. Their city was besieged and later massacred, but a group of 40 remained and Josephus was one of them. He decided that they had to kill each other, but he said that each man kill them man next to you, so they didn't break the Jewish law of no suicide.
Well he later decided that it wasn't a good idea and surrendered to the General and later Emperor Vespasian who decided to let him live.
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Yes, in Paganist Europe, suicide was used. The Emperor Nero had a servant put a sword right threw his throat. But this was a different age.
I was talking about feudal Europe during the middle ages. The age of Chivalry and Piety had no suicidal rituals.
When the Islamic leader Saladin captured the Crusader State in the Third Crusades, the Knights didn't surrender nor commit suicide. Saladin offered them to convert to Islam, but they refused, and they were beheaded as a consequence.
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@havee3333333 Dude, knights had rules about honourable suicide. Remember; back then, suicide was much prefered to what your enemies would do to you. Hell, its why the Romans and Greeks held the idea of suicide as being good; better than letting your enemies get their hands on you.
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When Genghis Khan died, his people sacrificed several women, horse, and soldiers to die with him. This can also be said about ancient China, there was a King who had his whole city sacrificed with him. And it was also a ritual in some Native American tribes.
And the ritual of the Rajputs that you talked about continued, until the East India Company outlawed it in the 1700s.
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Not in Christian, Jewish, and Islamic societies. Remember that in the feudal system in Europe, the biggest thing people cared about was leaving this horrible world and going to the next. And it was against all of these religions to commit suicide, punishable by hell.
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The only reason we think ritual suicide is so strange is because our parents are from a bourgeoisie society. In the Feudal system people cared about honor and family, where now we are greedy egoists who only care about our own benefits. But I don't blame any of you for this because this system has existed since the 1700s. Whole systems have changed from that time, as the bourgeoisie conquered by infesting peoples' minds with greed.
As said best by Karl Marx and Fredrick Engels.
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@McSqueaky it did, in fact, there really was a guy who would give the seppukuee a "second death" (beheading) because of how extremly painful it was
The feudal Japanese glorified death a lot more than other world cultures across the board. Didn't the Samurai actually HOPE to die in battle? A Samurai warrior who expects to die actually fought better than one who expects to live(which they take that into account as cowardice).
To them, death is full of EPIC WIN!
Agent1W 2 years ago 6
I see. I knew Japan had an incredibly high suicide rate, but this adds a whole new level to it all. Indeed, as you say 'suicide' is a widely inaccurate term as it ignores notions of honour, family and dignity which play a crucial part in the concept of seppuku. Incredible how such ideas have lived on and applied themselves to new contexts.
bc0613 2 years ago 3