TANKS THAT FLY 2: M113 AEROGAVINS

"Armor in the future must fly; just as all other means of war must fly. Possessing good cross-country mobility and gunned to destroy any earthbound vehicle, the tank
will play the decisive role in the coming battles of the airhead. "

--General James M. Gavin

MODELVISION demonstrates an important operational concept (OPCON) so we can have responsive, DIY Air-Mech-Strike without having to "mother may I?" a ride from aviator bureaucracies.

http://www.combatreform.org/killerbees.htm

Another problem is "beggars can't be choosy" ie; if we depend on incompetent Aviator bureaucracies like the Army's rotorheads who absurdy fly in DARK GREEN helicopters during daylight sky-blue hours that might get us all killed and ruin the mission.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPGgwBr-OEs

A recent DoD study concludes 76% of all U.S. helo shoot-downs took place during DAYLIGHT but the dumbasses persist in dark green helos!

QUOTE:

"In OEF/OIF, 76% of combat hostile action losses occurred during daylight hours"

"Study on Rotorcraft Survivability" Summary Briefing 19 October 2009 for Congress/DoD, by JAS, IDA

You can read the entire report below and notice the idiots don't even think of improving their camouflage!

PDF
http://www.combatreform.org/SRS_Summary_Public_Release_10-19-09.pdf

PPTX
http://www.combatreform.org/SRS_Summary_Public_Release_10-19-09.pptx

WHAT GOOD CAMOUFLAGE LOOKS LIKE:

http://www.combatreform.org/camie.htm

If Air-Mech Light Infantry flew themselves, we'd be able to insure to be painted in proper sky-gray camouflage and even have things like Yehudi lights employed etc.

Here's an U.S. Army Command & General Staff College School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS) report by Infantry officer, Major William Sutey on the need for cross-country MOBILITY (XCM) from M113 Gavin light tracked tanks to improve LIGHT INFANTRY FORCE mobility, protection and firepower. READ IT.

http://www.combatreform.org/M113GAVINSforLIGHTINFANTRYmajorsutey1993.pdf

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[barccy]

Couldn't helicopters fulfill most of these roles?

[BlacktailDefense]

To make a "Flying M113", you'd not only need wings, stabilizers, and propulsion, but also a nose section (the M113 isn't a very stream-lined vehicle) with a dedicated aircrew --- essentially a fixed-wing "Skycrane".

Otherwise, you'd have to steer it from the Driver's station, looking through a single vision block --- that would NOT be fun.

[52111centrumcz]

@dynmicpara

Problems with ego-driven infighting must be solved in other manners besides avoiding the issues where the ego gets in the way, at least that's the way I see it.

[dynmicpara]

@Hairysteed Good question. Potentially a fixed-wing flying tank would fly much faster than a drag-heavy, conventional helo--at least 300 mph depending on streamlining and thrust.

[dynmicpara]

@Hairysteed Sad but true. Light infantry narcissism permeates both the Air Assault and Airborne communities such that they refuse to use the light tanks they have--they'd rather roll on wheeled trucks and get blown up by ever increasing land mines than look like a "mech pussy" in tracks.

[dynmicpara]

@52111centrumcz The CH-54 Skycrane can hoist tanks up tight against its skeletal fuselage--we propose it in our AMS book. It's a possibility but we would have to buy the helos and mother may I? the aviators to fly them. Ideally, we'd be best to fly ourselves for air-mech maneuver.

[dynmicpara]

@Bloodraptorsharkska spelling would be a start...

[Hairysteed]

@dynmicpara and how fast do you suppose a fixed-wing flying tank could fly?

[Hairysteed]

@dynmicpara Army helos won't fly Army tanks? Don't you have some kind of CHAIN OF COMMAND in your army?! Don't they FOLLOW ORDERS?!

[52111centrumcz]

@dynmicpara

I'm thinking...if at the top of the M113 you'd have metal fasteners, could you run solid chains to the gear of the CH-47s, or any airframe hardpoints that would allow them to be hoisted externally?

[Bloodraptorsharkska]

i find this video hard to masterbate too..

[Break226]

fuck securing a LZ detach the apc from the sky and have it secure it's own LZ and make a nice sized crater too. maybe al qaeda'll just think they got bombed? then bam its a motha fuckin' apc BITCH! what the hell is 3:48 from?