@pelicanus11 School figures were not asinine. They are the basis of skating. How sad it is today to see skater have poor edges when they skate, that's because they never did school figures. I agree that back in 1972 too much weight was given to school figures but to have got rid of them altogether was wrong. I think the compromise reached by the late 1980's was about right: 50% free programme, 30% short programme and 20% school figures
@mlc2005: I'll try to find the clip with Button's comment. It was in reference to school figures and how they are judged, and he said that, to be good at them, required years of doing them repeatedly. Of course all sport has practice, but one must admit that free skating requires much more athleticism, stamina, and fitness than figures. I also disagree with generalizations re: the end of figures means that ALL skaters now have "shallow edges and can't skate."
@Sephiroth9611:That's a good point. I don't have a problem with figures being part of competition, per se,but perhaps they just needed to count a lot less. If it had been, at the time: 20% of the total that would have been okay. What frustrated so many people is that mediocre skaters won due to an event that was basically closed to the public and to tv audiences (not good in a sport with a history of corrupt judging). The Lynn's, Ito's, Cranston's, and Beillmann's of the world deserved better.
@mlc2005 I have been wondering about your paraphrase of what Dick Bottom said about figures and how you use that as a point for how figures should not be a part of competition. By your reasoning, should we take out of any sport any activity that requires skill gained by practice? Off the top of my head I can think of free-throw shooting in basketball: just a player, the ball, and the basket.
@pelicanus11 School figures were not asinine. They are the basis of skating. How sad it is today to see skater have poor edges when they skate, that's because they never did school figures. I agree that back in 1972 too much weight was given to school figures but to have got rid of them altogether was wrong. I think the compromise reached by the late 1980's was about right: 50% free programme, 30% short programme and 20% school figures
npe1 1 month ago
How asinine school figures were.
Trixie couldnt hold a candle to Janet as far as freeskating went!
pelicanus11 2 months ago
@skatenater Janet ushered in no such thing. Look to Zayak and that early 80's era for that complaint,
bassethound1 6 months ago
Stupid school figures! Janet is superior!
pelicanus11 6 months ago
@mlc2005: I'll try to find the clip with Button's comment. It was in reference to school figures and how they are judged, and he said that, to be good at them, required years of doing them repeatedly. Of course all sport has practice, but one must admit that free skating requires much more athleticism, stamina, and fitness than figures. I also disagree with generalizations re: the end of figures means that ALL skaters now have "shallow edges and can't skate."
mlc2005 7 months ago
@Sephiroth9611:That's a good point. I don't have a problem with figures being part of competition, per se,but perhaps they just needed to count a lot less. If it had been, at the time: 20% of the total that would have been okay. What frustrated so many people is that mediocre skaters won due to an event that was basically closed to the public and to tv audiences (not good in a sport with a history of corrupt judging). The Lynn's, Ito's, Cranston's, and Beillmann's of the world deserved better.
mlc2005 7 months ago
@mlc2005 I have been wondering about your paraphrase of what Dick Bottom said about figures and how you use that as a point for how figures should not be a part of competition. By your reasoning, should we take out of any sport any activity that requires skill gained by practice? Off the top of my head I can think of free-throw shooting in basketball: just a player, the ball, and the basket.
Sephiroth9611 7 months ago
@pelicanus11 What do you mean by 'thunder thighs'?
Sephiroth9611 8 months ago
Trixie thunder thighs
pelicanus11 8 months ago
Love Janet Lynns style of skating!!!
pelicanus11 8 months ago