@wbrooseboom Seriously? You're seriously comparing us to anywhere abroad? How well do you know our country? Again: I'm not denying your opinions but every person who wants to discriminate against brazilians will use our favelas as a strong argument and you did it very well. There's no answer to that. But you certainly do not think we're a great, huge favela all around, do you?
You should never use Sarney as role model, Rio is not the greatest city on Earth and you certainly screwed up our conversation by refering to your "constructive criticism" in such terms. Just as you may spread your pessimist opinions I thought I had the right to express and clarify mine. I'm sincerely sorry to drag you into a pointless discussion.
@eraldokobayashi "Espaços públicos estão presententes na maioria de nossas cidades." Not sure where to start here as it is my profound conviction that public places in Brazilian cities are more or less abandoned areas where no one really wants to be. Children will play ball where ever and when ever they can, I see many do so in the favelas but to call those public spaces ..... Have a look abroad to catch a glimpse of what I mean because I guess you've gotta see it to believe it.
@wbrooseboom I wasn't blaming our politicians for all of our problems, I'm sorry if you had that impression. I was just enumerating some of our long list of flaws. Just as you, I've seen some terrible things being done and I don't blame you for thinking that way. I also happen to see, every day, people struggling to help others without even thinking about any of we're saying...
@eraldokobayashi Sure: all unique, Rio the best city in the world, Brazil a country for all, etc. etc. What I also find so remarkable is the difficulty of the Brazilians to deal with what I would call constructive criticism. People, grow some thicker skin (or grow up) and deal with it. Just sticking your head in the sand, while mumbling things like tudo bem, ta bom and sei la, just doesn't get you anywhere. Can't you see. Think, speak up, act, grow and develop.
@vann12345 .....Other cars stopped as well - on the middle of the highway that is - but only to start hastily picking up boxes of the cargo that lay spread over the highway. I was rather stunned and appalled by such egocentric behavior. More cars stopped and more people started following the dreadful example. There's no politician to blame for that. As mentioned before; the people get the politicians they deserve.
@wbrooseboom As I said, you're not entirely wrong. I'm not interessed in causing a discussion either, but you must remember you asked for a counterpoint. And you're right, I was generical. I just don't see any massive movement in our behavior as Humans for good or for bad, just as you don't have any perspectives for brazilian's personal growth. I understand we're a very troubled society but I can't help feeling positive with every single day of my work.
@vann12345 Blaming and waiting for some Sarney clone to come and save you is just not a very viable option. Best of luck! PS, I was recently witness of a rather severe car accident in which a large truck was involved. The truck had crashed into the guardrail and tipped over leaving the driver bloody and shocked. Me and my friend stopped over the car and immediately rushed to the seen to see what help could we provide.
Nos temos que ser a mudança que queremos ver no Mundo!
ShirleaG 3 months ago
Responsabilidade Social, nos negócios.
ShirleaG 3 months ago
@wbrooseboom Seriously? You're seriously comparing us to anywhere abroad? How well do you know our country? Again: I'm not denying your opinions but every person who wants to discriminate against brazilians will use our favelas as a strong argument and you did it very well. There's no answer to that. But you certainly do not think we're a great, huge favela all around, do you?
vann12345 5 months ago
You should never use Sarney as role model, Rio is not the greatest city on Earth and you certainly screwed up our conversation by refering to your "constructive criticism" in such terms. Just as you may spread your pessimist opinions I thought I had the right to express and clarify mine. I'm sincerely sorry to drag you into a pointless discussion.
vann12345 5 months ago
@eraldokobayashi "Espaços públicos estão presententes na maioria de nossas cidades." Not sure where to start here as it is my profound conviction that public places in Brazilian cities are more or less abandoned areas where no one really wants to be. Children will play ball where ever and when ever they can, I see many do so in the favelas but to call those public spaces ..... Have a look abroad to catch a glimpse of what I mean because I guess you've gotta see it to believe it.
wbrooseboom 5 months ago
@wbrooseboom I wasn't blaming our politicians for all of our problems, I'm sorry if you had that impression. I was just enumerating some of our long list of flaws. Just as you, I've seen some terrible things being done and I don't blame you for thinking that way. I also happen to see, every day, people struggling to help others without even thinking about any of we're saying...
vann12345 5 months ago
@eraldokobayashi Sure: all unique, Rio the best city in the world, Brazil a country for all, etc. etc. What I also find so remarkable is the difficulty of the Brazilians to deal with what I would call constructive criticism. People, grow some thicker skin (or grow up) and deal with it. Just sticking your head in the sand, while mumbling things like tudo bem, ta bom and sei la, just doesn't get you anywhere. Can't you see. Think, speak up, act, grow and develop.
wbrooseboom 5 months ago
@vann12345 .....Other cars stopped as well - on the middle of the highway that is - but only to start hastily picking up boxes of the cargo that lay spread over the highway. I was rather stunned and appalled by such egocentric behavior. More cars stopped and more people started following the dreadful example. There's no politician to blame for that. As mentioned before; the people get the politicians they deserve.
wbrooseboom 5 months ago
@wbrooseboom As I said, you're not entirely wrong. I'm not interessed in causing a discussion either, but you must remember you asked for a counterpoint. And you're right, I was generical. I just don't see any massive movement in our behavior as Humans for good or for bad, just as you don't have any perspectives for brazilian's personal growth. I understand we're a very troubled society but I can't help feeling positive with every single day of my work.
vann12345 5 months ago
@vann12345 Blaming and waiting for some Sarney clone to come and save you is just not a very viable option. Best of luck! PS, I was recently witness of a rather severe car accident in which a large truck was involved. The truck had crashed into the guardrail and tipped over leaving the driver bloody and shocked. Me and my friend stopped over the car and immediately rushed to the seen to see what help could we provide.
wbrooseboom 5 months ago