Russia Today: Zeitgeist: Moving Beyond Money [Peter Joseph / Zeitgeist Movement ]

rt.com/usa/news/zeitgeist-moving-money-utopia/

March 25th 2011.

A 20 min personal RT interview is pending as well.

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Education

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• russia today
• the zeitgeist movement
• peter joseph
• the venus project
• jacque fresco
• zeitgeist movie
• zeitgeist moving forward
• zeitgeist addendum

[tipofmytongue1024]

Does anybody else get turned on my Peter's voice?

[Archonus]

@ShadowWireDirector You have brothers and sisters in places like Africa that are starving every day. And whether you like it or not, you already live with machines. The computer you used to type this comment is a machine. You and I are machines. Biological machines, organisms.

And if there were a God, I'm sure He wouldn't mind us using our gifts of innovation and invention to extend ourselves throughout the entire world, so that we can care for and interact with all humans on Earth.

[banzaiian]

all the fresco fanboys have been brainwashed. he is a ripjob conman, he never invented anything, hes a commie cunt, and takes advantage of the stupidpeople, capitalism has created everything we have today from fast cars to global communication. fresco has created zilch, fuck all zero.unless you count bullshit then hes great, in fact hes the new jesus, i mean that pendulum under the car was the worst idea i have ever heard in my life. i wouldnt even buy a used car from him

[banzaiian]

@TheTrueScource communism was a classless moneyless society, no one is going to hand the resources over to conman fresco, lets all share, blah blah its all bullshit, fresco can start by making 7 billion sandwiches then we can take it from there

[TheTrueScource]

@banzaiian

Just know that mankind is pretty fucked when the resources run out. We need to change our ways, and whether you like it our not, we are going to have an economy based on resources in the future, not on money or credit, but something real. We can have a sustainable system that works to take care of you, or we can have what we have now, a world where the 1% hoard 40% of the wealth while everyone else starves. People like you need to open your mind to something new.

[TheTrueScource]

@banzaiian

A moneyless, classless society has never truly been tried before. You assume Stalin and Hitler tried it, yet that was not the case at all. Stalin and Hitler were dictators that used very similar monetary policies just like ours. Their ideas were based on the same concept as us: we live on a world of infinite resources. I'm starting to question whether you are a troll or not because were beginning to go in circles. Regardless, this debate is going nowhere.

[banzaiian]

@CntthnkO15 so how will frescos system not be exploitable ?? other than gullible optimism, i cant see how. my bias agaisnt fresco is because he is a bullshitting conman. same as i am biast against hitler. his system is flawed, its loose communism, peoples republic, promised land, all equal, eutopia bla bla. communism has all ready failed. moneyless classless society does not work. NO ONE has control, but one source controls all the resources, thats just the same thing, i would rather have rights

[banzaiian]

@TheTrueScource when i say desert i just mean shithole, it was just an example, if fresco can build a world for these people and get rid of warlords and so on give them food etc then good for him, he could start off by doing that, but these people can move to better places, america doesnt force them to live there. as with the cancer, as soon as we move to frescos system, cancer is automatically cured ?? cannabis is hardly going to do anybody with full blown cancer any good,

[CntthnkO15]

@banzaiian No "one" has control over the resources, that is the point, your bias against Fresco is getting in the way of reason. Stop being so close minded. What he is saying WILL be the future, this system DOES NOT AND WILL NOT WORK. If money exists, there will be suffering and inequality. There is no way there are 4 billion jobs(7 billion on planet, i subtracted 3 billion for retirees and children, probably too much but, "4 billion" is a big enough number.

[TheTrueScource]

@banzaiian

Im assuming the countries your speaking of are African and Middle Eastern since you are saying deserts. First off, i don't know what idiot builds a village in the middle of a desert rather than next to a stream, second, alot of these villages are also ruled by tyrants and warlords who buy arms off the US military. You won't believe the messed up policies in those countries. Just ask North Korea.

[TheTrueScource]

@banzaiian

Well its one thing not to agree with Fresco, its another to think that we don't need an alternative to the system that is slowly burning to the ground around us. Do those pot smokers have ruined lungs? yes, but that is from inhaling smoke, not weed, in vapor form its completely harmless (and more potent). It is a very common fact that weed is a great treatment for several cancers and other diseases. Read about it, you wont regret it.

[banzaiian]

@TheTrueScource this man would fuck you up the ass to get his hands on the worlds resources, hes a conman, even he doesnt believe his own bullshit