Post Tribulation Rapture - Not Appointed to God's Wrath

This video debunks the false application of God's wrath to the great tribulation by clarifying I Thessalonians 5:9 and providing indepth analysis on associated passages that prove the true timing of God's wrath.

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[JoBernard12oxen]

Notice that six trumpets/plagues of the Lord are poured out "from the angels in heaven on the same kingdom of that man of sin which imposes a worldwide identification (marking) system using the eyes as in the forehead and the fingerprints as in the right hand. The wrath of God therefore begins with the tribulation and finalizes with the return of Christ as the final last trumpet of judgment. The Lord gathers his chosen from every nation and generation to use in destroying Satan's kingdom. ?

[skydiver626]

@JoBernard12oxen Please go back through and study each one of the trumpets and tell me which one includes a mention of God's wrath or of God's judgement? The only one that makes a literal mention of God's wrath is the 7th trumpet and it states that his Wrath IS - present tense -come (Auth KJV). Another words, it hasn't occurred previously. This can be verified on all the other Revelation timelines which reiterate the trumpets timeline...

[skydiver626]

@JoBernard12oxen For instance,after the trumpets,Rev 12-14 backs up and reiterates the trump timeline once again. This can be verified since the beast is found to be rising out of the sea once again in Rev 13.This had already been discussed at the fifth trumpet when the beast rose out of the pit. Therefore, Rev 12-14 is indeed reiterating the same timeline only from a different perspective. Notice that the "hr of God's Judgement" (Rev 14:7) doesn't come till after the events of the great trib?

[skydiver626]

@JoBernard12oxen Simply taking this clear information and applying back to the trumpets timeline REQUIRES God's judgment to be poured out after the great tribulation (after the 5th trump - remember:no beast = no trib) Which trumpet occurs after the great trib? It's the 7th trumpet blast and as luck would have it, there you find the exact mention of God's wrath finally manifesting! You see, you can't single out just one timeline, you have to put them all together to get the message right.

[mamothcar1]

The Church is not appointed to wrath!!! God's wrath is armageddon - and the church will NOT be there for that! But the Church will go through the Great Tribulation!

Some saints will die, and some who overcome make the rapture! It has to be this way because there is too much easy believism - just believe - hey I use to party and call myself a believer! I was on a highway to hell and didnt know it! No You must be born again of the water and Spirit - Obey Peter's command - ACTS 2:38

[skydiver626]

@mamothcar1 Yes, absolutely. I was on the same path as you. I use to do whatever I wanted because of the "easy believism" doctrine that you mentioned. I thought I had a free pass to live like the devil and still be saved. What deception Satan has devised within the church! Fortunately the Holy Spirit has opened my eyes to many false teachings within the church and I'm very grateful for it. I feel massive sadness for those who will fall into these traps and never escape.

[1979jdw]

Very good video, thank you!!

[JoBernard12oxen]

@86Xforce I bet you a dollar you can not prove to me that the meeting in the air and the sudden destruction don't happen in the same context and time because they do in I Thess chap 4 and 5, I bet you can't do it. AND I bet you another dollar that you can't prove that the exact same time when the Lord overthrows the kingdoms of this world and rewards his saints servants and prophets that he doesn't destroy those that destroyed the earth, because the rewards/destruction is same time Rev.11:17-19

[JoBernard12oxen]

@Howie47 Yes, perhaps punishment is too harsh a word, but God does correct those he loves else we'd be bastard children, either way it does come from the Lord and it will be the most sever time of all. This stands to prove that the promises of God are sure both for good and evil regardless the recipient. thank you.

[Howie47]

@JoBernard12oxen  I don't think the tribulation is so much punishment; as it is trying to get mankind to return to belief in the Lords Salvation. In revelations it says the wicked. Refuse to cease from their own works and from worshiping devils and serving false gods. While the saved give Glory to God when they see the tribulation. As we see happening today on YouTube. Some giving Glory to God for disasters. Others saying it's just nature!

[Howie47]

@skydiver626 That's exactly why the backslidden church wants to believe in the Pre-Trib. Because they don't want to repent. It's also exactly why we go through tribulation. To try us, and purg us, and make us white! "White" in the blood of the Lamb. Stopping are own works and giving Glory to God.

[Howie47]

Good video. Maybe I missed one point .At least a couple times in the gospels the Lord compares the "rapture" to a harvest. And the harvest of both good and bad, He pictures as happening at the same time. Now see. Rev 14. 14-20 It describes a harvest. With the Saints taken into heaven. The wicked into. "great winepress of the Wrath of God".

[Myhopeisinhim]

@TheJohnwade

I have a feeling you are right:(

[Myhopeisinhim]

They usually say that the church won't go through the tribulation because they are not appointed to God's wrath. The question I like to ask is: are those that become christians during the tribulation subject to God's wrath?

The typical answer is, no. Then I ask...if they aren't subject to it and they are in the trib, why must you escape the trib to not be subject to God's wrath?

[robertslistening]

Finally, some sound doctrine.