Wrestling Roundtable #1 12/1/07 Part 4 - WCW & Their Stars continued

In the last segment, we'll discuss what role ECW had in creating WCW's midcard names(Did ECW make stars?), and who was the biggest potential star that WCW let slip through their fingers? Which talent jump hurt WCW the most during the Monday Night Wars? Hosted by Eric Santamaria. Tune in to the next show as we'll discuss the state of TNA & what's holding them back, if anything, from rising to the next level in the wrestling world. Plus, will the Monday Night Wars ever be re-created in our lifetimes? Check it out to find out our answers. Hosted by Eric Santamaria.

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[skinwalkerxxx]

Giant was never over. Sure he got a few big pops when it was inside a storyline but even as a face for instance when pitted against the nWo members, he was booed or ignored. It's true that WCW didn'r know what to do with him while he kept switching back and forth from heel to face.

Jericho was a loss but WCW could manage. The Radicals were not gonna be the saviors of WCW anyway. And I wasn't impressed by their WWF pushes anyway.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

I don't know what show you watched, but I can attest(especially having watched back a lot of that stuff recently) that The Giant pretty much always got a reaction. He was a WCW original that their crowd loved. Jericho was a big loss, long-term, and the Radicalz were lost at a pivotal time when they were needed. How their crappy (lack of) pushes affects this I don't know, since Big Show & Jericho's pushes when they came to the WWF initially sucked too, ha.

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[awo55]

but you know what,now that i think about it,wcw from 1998-99 was a fuck of a lot more interesting than seeing orton and HHH for the millionth time in a main event.you guys shd do a video called wwe and their future stars,jus a suggestion.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

WWE's future stars are Shawn Michaels, Undertaker, Cena, Triple H & Batista though ;)

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[WTS1377]

@MRobert21 didnt they make ron simmons the first black world heavyweight champ?

[kanedasrifle]

Raven.

Both major companys fucked that up.

[sxd]

I mean I guess it's arguable that both Scorpio and Lynn were better suited for ECW and other indies, but I dunno, I think they could both have done really well in the bigger leagues if they were pushed properly.

[sxd]

I think Jerry Lynn was criminally misused by both WCW and WWE! I mean, it might just be because I'm a bit of a JL mark, but to me this guy could EASILY have been a top face, or close to it. He has the total never-say-die babyface look and attitude, and WCW decided to put him behind a mask?? Fucking ridiculous. They also kinda dropped the ball on 2 Cold Scorpio, although they gave him an amazing debut at least.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Alright, I've had it. I've tried reasoning with you, but you never listen. I've heard some truly delusional, stupid & just plain untrue things coming out of your mouth but have been really tolerant til now because I don't want to disparage other OPINIONS, but you're not just saying stuff that's dumb, not just factually inaccurate in some cases, but you've got a lot of nerve insulting other people for being "ignorant," as if you're so smart. Get the fuck off our talks, jerk off.

-E

[JMBitchboy]

I'm not trying to start anything here but you better watch it. Of course there were so many blacks who won titles and then what? What's the next step? None! Shelton Benjamin is the best example since he and Randy Orton rose to the top at the same time but along the way Shelton is back to where he started. My point was WWE doesn't have enough confidence to make a black man carry the company as WORLD CHAMPION! Racism still exists but in more subliminal ways these days.

[MRobert21]

Since you clearly know nothing about wrestling from these ignorant comments I am here to correct you. Sure WWF does not push black people, like the Rock (oh WWF made Rock a global superstar) and Tony Atlas and Rocky Johnson (oh WWF was the first company to make 2 blacks world tag team champions). I want you to tell Ron Simmons how racist WWF is since he jumped from WCW to WWF because WCW really was discriminating against him. Booker is a drug addict, convict, who always says he is retiring.

[JMBitchboy]

At least WCW made an effort to push a black man as champion. Booker T, in 2003 and at the peak of his popularity post-WCW should'vebeaten Triple H at Wrestlemania but he was robbed because he was black and WWE doesn't push blacks enough plus Triple H booked himself to win 13 world titles. Booker T eventually got his title run but it was 3 years overdue and fans were more annoyed with his King gimmick since Edge was the top heel and Batista was on his way back to the top from injury.

[MRobert21]

To his credit, Booker T lost a lot of money by taking a buy out of his WCW contract to come in to WWF when WCW died rather than sitting at home and collecting a check to not work as Flair, Nash, Goldturd, and many others did. How ever, Booker T was only pushed in the dying days of WCW because he was black and WCW needed a minority champion to defend againsst the law suit of Sonny Onoo and some minority jobbers (I believe the suit was settled out of court). Booker T is best in tags and mid card

[MRobert21]

If WWF's only future stars are those established stars, then why do I have to listen to every know nothing smark on the internet whining and crying about the huge pushes of Shamus, Miz, Drew McIntyre, Mister Coffee Kingston, et cetera? No promotion in history pushes young guys and makes new stars like the WWF, which is why McMahon rules and every body else is out of business (including dead promotion walking TNA.).