@krossk424 Musical dynamics are clearly indications of relative volume (loudness). Your remark referring them to “mood” instead of to volume is definitely wrong. In any case this rendition doesn’t even show a proper change of mood either! (reflected of course in the voice and not only in the facial expression or in an ev. “state of mind” of the tenor). This rendition with its lacks of dynamic range remains superficial and missing the message.
Right, singing pitches lower than what is written, and out of tune with the surrounding accompaniment could be interpreted as flatness, because that's what flatness is.
You know as well as I that Pav was an anomaly, and that people prefer skinny singers with no breath support.
If you don't have flexibility and consistency, that says nothing about Bostridge's ability, only your inability. Leggerios like Pavarotti and Kraus had no problem projecting over large Verdi and Puccini orchestras, and dramatic tenors like Langridge and Vickers frequently sang melismatic music such as Handel, Britten and Mozart.
@jaketaz Sorry, you're not right. He does a little sliding off at the end of the note which could be interpreted as flatness (which i think sounds gross tbh) but it's not flat. Just clenched.
Released? Forcing your jaw down isn't relaxation, it's just tension the in opposite direction. What I'm "reading into" is the visible separation of his mandibular hinge beneath his facial skin (overextension), and the distance of his jaw compared to his mouth size when closed. It's too far open.
If the music at 1:37 suggests staccato, why are the upper strings playing it legato?
@jaketaz The wild popularity of the visually boring performances of Pavarotti disproves this point. Just because he chooses not to overdo it and push his voice to something which it's not built to do doesn't make him a terrible singer. For someone interested in big voices and operas, it might be said that he brings little to the table but as someone with a dramatic tenor voice, i find myself wishing for the flexibility and consistency of a Bostridge, albeit minus the visual oddities.
on dirais une chevre!!!!
noiram123456 1 month ago
@JoseCarlosCristiano Tienes razon absoluta...es un error de mi parte. Es un tenor especializado en arte barroco.
JorPove 2 months ago
@JorPove Es un tenor... No un barítono.
JoseCarlosCristiano 2 months ago
@krossk424 Musical dynamics are clearly indications of relative volume (loudness). Your remark referring them to “mood” instead of to volume is definitely wrong. In any case this rendition doesn’t even show a proper change of mood either! (reflected of course in the voice and not only in the facial expression or in an ev. “state of mind” of the tenor). This rendition with its lacks of dynamic range remains superficial and missing the message.
David45NV1 2 months ago
@krossk424
Right, singing pitches lower than what is written, and out of tune with the surrounding accompaniment could be interpreted as flatness, because that's what flatness is.
jaketaz 2 months ago
@krossk424
You know as well as I that Pav was an anomaly, and that people prefer skinny singers with no breath support.
If you don't have flexibility and consistency, that says nothing about Bostridge's ability, only your inability. Leggerios like Pavarotti and Kraus had no problem projecting over large Verdi and Puccini orchestras, and dramatic tenors like Langridge and Vickers frequently sang melismatic music such as Handel, Britten and Mozart.
jaketaz 2 months ago
@jaketaz Sorry, you're not right. He does a little sliding off at the end of the note which could be interpreted as flatness (which i think sounds gross tbh) but it's not flat. Just clenched.
krossk424 2 months ago
@krossk424
Why don't you like the choice? Because he drags?
Released? Forcing your jaw down isn't relaxation, it's just tension the in opposite direction. What I'm "reading into" is the visible separation of his mandibular hinge beneath his facial skin (overextension), and the distance of his jaw compared to his mouth size when closed. It's too far open.
If the music at 1:37 suggests staccato, why are the upper strings playing it legato?
jaketaz 2 months ago
@krossk424
I have perfect pitch. Since you don't, I will tell you that if you slow the recording down you can easily hear its flatness.
jaketaz 2 months ago
@jaketaz The wild popularity of the visually boring performances of Pavarotti disproves this point. Just because he chooses not to overdo it and push his voice to something which it's not built to do doesn't make him a terrible singer. For someone interested in big voices and operas, it might be said that he brings little to the table but as someone with a dramatic tenor voice, i find myself wishing for the flexibility and consistency of a Bostridge, albeit minus the visual oddities.
krossk424 2 months ago