Karl Marx - Mark Steel Lectures Part 2/5

Anarchist or Communist socialization is when an industry is governed by and available to all.

Twisted Leninism, internal class interests and national interests lead to a concentration of power into the hands of a minority in Russia which lead to a new imperialist empire under the banner of freedom just as so many non "socialist" powers have. Therefore the comedians vague generalizations of these countries, their political and class struggles is nothing but a quick glance and write off.

You believe the ideas are bad because they don't materialize themselves under any conditions. We do not believe in idealism we work for our interests. Ideas do not protect anyone from power struggles that contradict those interests and the abuse of those very ideas as justification.

Fine its statism. Socialism is statism. Communism is statism. Fasism is statism. Any system that does not establish and uphold property rights is statism. All statist systems destroy the productive ability of society and collapse. Always have, always will. Only one society has even come close to understanding and upholding the right of property. Consequently it rose from a third world nation to the most prosperous in less then 100 years.

This is why the US is the happiest nation on earth!!!

Yes it also has created a state entity to protect those who were sucessful in the "free market" (so called property rights)and now there is no "free market" it;s called monopoly capitalism the inherit result of privatisation. And only at the expense of killing a nation of people, enslaving another, while waging war with the earth for the next 300 years. Go capitalism!!! Way to sugar coat your ideas. They sound good on paper but it isnt reality you always forget that you prosper from opression.

Their was a free market in many industries in the United States. Agriculture, chemistry, and electricity for about 80 years. In that time the US rose to dominance. At that point the freemarket was abandoned for regulation. You are not using the word capitalism correctly, I assume you will refuse to. So I will refuse to use it at all. What I am talking about is perfect liberty (Adam Smith's definition) guided by objective morals (I"ll go with rand I suppose) . Define Oppression.

There will never be a perfect system - in reality at least. Thus - even though I agree with what you say on state control - I disagree with your suggestion that capitalism should be scrapped because it doesn't work. It should be modified. But it is a fact that there is not alternative system that lives up to capitalism - in practice at least. Marx' theories are idealistical - and what we live every day is the system as it is implemented - not as it is written down in some book.