@lukasz12us But gadgets aside, IMO it's sad that MMC doesn't have any midsize sedan in the market anymore, only the small Lancer (forget the new Galant/380). And MMC hasn't really devised a true FR platform for its passenger vehicle lineup (except the Pajero and earlier Delica/L200 van) all over these years. Even its flagship GTO coupe was based on FF (transverse engine) platform.
@lukasz12us The Aurora, Intrigue etc. were GM's luxury models, of course they came with fancy A/Cs with displays. This tradition continues with modern (and current) Cadillac models.
Toyota is another one that retains good auto A/C front panel designs with graphics displays. Just look at the current Camry and Lexus models for example.
@lukasz12us But honestly speaking, the graphic display (while displaying the ventilation position/status clearly) is more of a luxury rather than practicality, and does increase manufacturing/maintenance costs. These days even auto climate controls can come with just a few dials (like the current MMC models). Practical but less aesthetic design so to speak, but with dials, you get other issues, mainly mechanical failure of the dials, should that happen.
@lukasz12us The FL display reminded me of the VCRs in the 90s which utilized similar display technologies. IMO it suffers in longterm reliability because the backlighting would eventually fade out badly, resulting in VERY POOR visibility under dim surroundings, and even WORSE under bright conditions. Backlighted LED displays (usu. with bright icons/alphanumeric characters) are much better, but I don't see MMC having incorporated it into later vehicles' A/Cs, but rather the cheaper, mono LCDs.
@yazkaz Yeah. The reason for absence of them is cost-cutting so common today. But IMHO although FL display looks fancy it wasn't the most clear to read nor easy to operate. I had my Sigma converted back to this older design with knobs as I find them more convenient to use. I think that FL climate control would have worked best if it had steering wheel control as most JDM versions did. Anyway I've only found similar solution on one car - 1996 Oldsmobile Auora.
@lukasz12us From Asia (not SE). You figure that out.
AFAIK MMC was first to introduce that fancy colored FL graphics display in its auto climate control. The GTO had that first, then the Diamante/Sigma. The FL panel lasted for a few years before being replaced by the monochrome, EL backlighted LCD.
These days you don't find these displays anymore. Most auto climate controls (even multi-zoned) have only knobs, buttons, and (optionally) tiny displays that show the temperature.
hot track right hurr
veuvecliquot 1 week ago
@IndependenceHD Everyone was looking for the music but to no avail!!
You can hear the full song from the longer CF at v=4BXDNYN7tRc
yazkaz 4 months ago
What song is playing?
IndependenceHD 4 months ago
@lukasz12us But gadgets aside, IMO it's sad that MMC doesn't have any midsize sedan in the market anymore, only the small Lancer (forget the new Galant/380). And MMC hasn't really devised a true FR platform for its passenger vehicle lineup (except the Pajero and earlier Delica/L200 van) all over these years. Even its flagship GTO coupe was based on FF (transverse engine) platform.
yazkaz 1 year ago
@lukasz12us The Aurora, Intrigue etc. were GM's luxury models, of course they came with fancy A/Cs with displays. This tradition continues with modern (and current) Cadillac models.
Toyota is another one that retains good auto A/C front panel designs with graphics displays. Just look at the current Camry and Lexus models for example.
yazkaz 1 year ago
@lukasz12us But honestly speaking, the graphic display (while displaying the ventilation position/status clearly) is more of a luxury rather than practicality, and does increase manufacturing/maintenance costs. These days even auto climate controls can come with just a few dials (like the current MMC models). Practical but less aesthetic design so to speak, but with dials, you get other issues, mainly mechanical failure of the dials, should that happen.
yazkaz 1 year ago
@lukasz12us The FL display reminded me of the VCRs in the 90s which utilized similar display technologies. IMO it suffers in longterm reliability because the backlighting would eventually fade out badly, resulting in VERY POOR visibility under dim surroundings, and even WORSE under bright conditions. Backlighted LED displays (usu. with bright icons/alphanumeric characters) are much better, but I don't see MMC having incorporated it into later vehicles' A/Cs, but rather the cheaper, mono LCDs.
yazkaz 1 year ago
@yazkaz Yeah. The reason for absence of them is cost-cutting so common today. But IMHO although FL display looks fancy it wasn't the most clear to read nor easy to operate. I had my Sigma converted back to this older design with knobs as I find them more convenient to use. I think that FL climate control would have worked best if it had steering wheel control as most JDM versions did. Anyway I've only found similar solution on one car - 1996 Oldsmobile Auora.
lukasz12us 1 year ago
@lukasz12us From Asia (not SE). You figure that out.
AFAIK MMC was first to introduce that fancy colored FL graphics display in its auto climate control. The GTO had that first, then the Diamante/Sigma. The FL panel lasted for a few years before being replaced by the monochrome, EL backlighted LCD.
These days you don't find these displays anymore. Most auto climate controls (even multi-zoned) have only knobs, buttons, and (optionally) tiny displays that show the temperature.
yazkaz 1 year ago
Anyway, facelifted euro-spec Sigmas had this fancy climate control with display. What place are you from anyway?
lukasz12us 1 year ago