Exchange w/ Shawn 1: Empricism

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Uploaded by on Jan 13, 2010

examining the boundaries of empiricism

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  • Hails! It's been a while, Tyrant, Imperator King!

    5 stars

  • Brain vs. Mind: I will usually speak about 'brain' as being a biological computer and 'mind' as an emergent property of the brain which is our conscious experience.

    I will screw up this distinction every now and then as most people talk of them as being interchangeable.

  • That we have various pre-conscious filters that select what sensory data arrives in our conscious awareness is both obvious and beside the point. Pre-conscious means.... pre-conscious. :)

    The fact is that once we are aware of it, it is sensory data. Once we are aware of the sensory data, it remains sensory data as we process it.

  • So if you were looking at a grid, your brain will generate a visual grid over the blindspot.

    A lacuna is a 'blind spot' in our awareness. A pre-conscious filter uses our peripheral vision to actually keep our eyes from looking directly at the lacuna and thus we don't become aware of it. Daniel Goleman's book "Vital Lies, Simple Truths: The Psychology of Self Deception" discusses some studies on lacunas using eye tracking that are truly fascinating.

  • Other related stuff I won't cover in my video response:

    A blind spot is not a lacuna. The blind spot is where there are no light receptors on the back of the eye because that's where the optic nerve connects. The blind spot itself is first related to the structure of the eye itself, and without eyes you don't have a blindspot. What's fascinating about the blindspot is that our brains fill in the gap in visual data with similar data from around the blindspot.

  • @shawnhartnell Higher math is built on these principles.

    It's worth noting here how we all originally came to understand what 3 means. We were shown 3 apples and then the numeral for 3. We were shown 3 bears then the numeral for 3.

    Even so, abstract numerals are represented, as I said, either visually or auditory. They have no meaning until you apply them to something else which is sense-data, you know, 3 birds.

  • Will make and post video response after I wake up.

    Quick thing about math though. Math is nothing more than matching one stimulus with another. This stimulus matching is built on a the correspondence between two numbers and a result, as the addition table and the multiplication table.

    We don't actually process numbers. We take the stimulus of 2 and + and 3 and retrieve from memory the symbol 5. These can be represented in our minds in the visual or auditory modalities.

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