Re:The Days After - Peak Oil

Peak Oil
So most of our energy comes from oil
This oil in turn, turns into food and this food turns into the members of our culture
So as the oil goes down, so will our population
I think the best solutions we can give to our communities are low tech passive systems. Some of these things are practices we used before the industrial revolution and some of these things we practiced before the agricultural revoluiton.
Get of the grid
Live equitably
and share what you have learned.

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[ItsFilthy]

Not only leaving the wilderness alone, by which I think you mean not raping and murdering it, but we also need to build a solid relationship with the wilderness again, so that we can enter back into the necessary agreements with our communities and assume our responsibilities to the members of our communities, and to the processes that allow us and everyone/thing in our communities to be healthy and balanced.

[AdamHintz]

Word. Verb.

[sickliberal]

if this remark concerns me you are mistaken my friend. i just want to tackle one topic at a time. we agree more than you think i just cannot explain my viewpoint in a ten minute video.

[sickliberal]

i agree totally, but the cultural or more personal ethical perspective requires another video. this one was about what will face us if we continue the path of explosive growth narrow capitalism, group against group and hierarchy. we can make a series of videos with more socially analytical perspectives. just look for video's with at least a usable or brilliant part in it concering such a topic. tareq ali comes to mind fe.

[bbbleaver]

sickliberal, i'm needing some clarity. what exactly is meant by 'do some research for usable clips' mean? i am totally supportive of 'low-tech' "solutions" such as the ones Amy Smith mentions (google TEDtalks((amy smith)). but i have little or no interest in supporting the investigation into how to make current culture sustainable. anything fueling overpopulation, war, Laws, and the use of cheap labor to perpetuate what we already have is not a world i want to continue living in.

[sickliberal]

indeed adam. i couldn't cover everything so deforestation only popped up once. we'll talk about growth and seeing the planet as a lump of resources some next time. why don't you and bbleaver and itsfilthy do some research for usable clips? cheers!

[AdamHintz]

I really think reducing our energy consumption is really to only way things will come to sustainability. If we have any surplus it will become a mouth to feed.

[AdamHintz]

Everything we try to do may get co-opted by larger interests for a different goal. We need to be able to adapt to them quicker than they adapt to us.

[ozjthomas]

I think liberalviewers intentions are honest and true, but I think I see where you're coming from, too, Z. Increasing the efficiency of our energy might just lead to more population, thus we run into the same problems just later on. I think we can do both, changing the enrgy we do use and are dependent on AND learn to live off the grid, as it were.

[mistaspot1]

I mean, instead of being supportive you're being critical. Like saying "No slave, you're escaping all wrong!" while many other slaves are sitting idly by, doing nothing.

I don't understand your beef, to be honest. What is your precise issue with his methods? Is it technology? You said agriculture can exist without civilization. Why can't technology?