The Evolution of the Flagellum

BEHE CONCEDES IC SYSTEMS CAN EVOLVE

Here I present a theory first published in 2003 by Nicholas Matzke. For more details one can view his work at

http://www.talkdesign.org/faqs/flagellum.html

This theory is derived from a wealth of data regarding protein homologies. It shows that a fully functional flagellum could evolve through multiple functional intermediates. Each step involves the modification of only a single protein. For more discussion on the actual proteins involved and their homologues see the link above.

When ID proponents ask what good is half a flagellum, well, ¾ a flagellum is good for dispersion, ½ a flagellum is good for attachment to substrates, ¼ a flagellum is good for regulated protein secretion.

This model based on a wealth of evidence shows that the flagellum could evolve. Since 2003 many experiments have confirmed what initially were only predictions or weak assumptions. Still, many fine details remain to be worked out regarding function, not origin. For example, how does the ATP synthase derived components impart the motion of active transport, or how does the Tol-Pal derived components actually spine the flagellum.

Behe in the Dover trial concedes that Irreducibly Complex systems can evolve.

Lawyer -- "You say, Even if a system is irreducibly complex
and thus could not have been produced directly, however,
one cannot definitively rule out the possibility of an
indirect, circuitous route, right?
Behe -- "Yes."
Lawyer -- "And by indirect, you mean evolution from a
pre-cursor with a different function than the system
being studied?"
Behe -- "Yes, different function, perhaps different number
of parts, and so on."

To be fair, however, Behe claims that at a certain point of complexity an indirect route is impossible. But he gives no evidence to support this caveat.

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[SorryStamin]

@esraretin Hold on there. If you're talking about knowing when we split up with Chimps, we find genes between us that are different and count the letters that are different. We then estimate the rate of evolution which is surprisingly accurate.

[esraretin]

@SorryStamin babdbabbdbacdccacad result.then we should calculate the synonymous sentences then probability of uniqe result or synonymous results.i dont think we could even find a few synonymous sentences.my view for my current info level is that its tremendously low probability.even with natural selection because we hadnt to think about god ,we just had to live just like all other animals.

[esraretin]

@SorryStamin i have a,b,c,d as a main set.results can occur in 4^4 (let assume) way.(as far as i read ,non-synonymous results are more than synonymous ones.then think about for a unique result,limit of result goes to 4^4).Add this ;bcdabdcabdcbabcdbabcdbabcdbac­bdabcdabcd (millions of them) to ancesstor DNA Then scientists say somewhere in this sentence,just two letters change and we can think about God. .now probability ignores that letters.we should still think about abababababa>>

[SorryStamin]

@esraretin petried 1. To convert (wood or other organic matter) into a stony replica by petrifaction. 2. To cause to become stiff or stonelike; deaden. <--- there ya go. I wish you would have told me you were not a first english speaker, I would be happy to continue this conversation over messaging with my google translated text.

[esraretin]

@SorryStamin ''Given the short time since the human-chimpanzee split, it is likely that a few mutations of large effect are responsible for part of the current physical (phenotypic) differences that separate humans from chimpanzees and other great apes''

these men have to calculate possibility of it!

[esraretin]

@SorryStamin i searching for some info.im new english learner.could u say what means?

The first vascular plant fossils (dated back to about 400 million years ago) have ''petried'' mycorrhizae. i couldnt find meaning of ''petried''?

[SorryStamin]

@esraretin (cont.) algae would be considered a colony right? all it does is stay by other algae.

[SorryStamin]

@esraretin I gave you an example. The sea sponge is an early form of animal, yet it is really a colony of cells. I told you about the Loricifera. I will give you a link to know animal transitions. We have jellyfish, brainless masses that can swim. Ediacara biota. All being swept under the rug when the ice sheet melted and caused the Cambrian explosion.

[esraretin]

@SorryStamin i see enormous gap in single cellular or colonies to animals or plants

[SorryStamin]

@esraretin (cont.) And by bacteria organelles I meant basically better new bacteria. Sorry for any confusion.