Michael Jordan 1987: 61 pts. Vs. Pistons
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@TPDom7 ,those playoff stats arent the head to head numbers,but rather their career numbers, head to head,Wilt destroyed Bill. Wilt took a lesser role on offense as his career went on. Wilt averaged more than 22.5 head to head vs Russell in the playoffs all time. Int he 67 eastern conf finals, Wilt averaged 21ppg,32reb,10asst,12blks per game. Russell just had a better team, he only played with 9 ofther hall of famers
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@wilzusuki he was a better individual player, I believe, because he had to do more things by himself. He was the whole team with no worthy players around him. He was certainly more fun to watch, he did it everything by himself. But I don't think he was better... I am not sure which one of us is right though :)
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mike was better player before he cut his hair
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the "big three" disliked this twice
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@TPDom7 so russell's points go up and wilts goes down and yet he still outscored him by 6ppg while shooting 10% better for his playoff career and this is ur big stat u want to present?? thats like giving credit to ben wallace whose scoring average goes up in the playoffs while punishing mello cuz his goes down(very little) in the playoffs while ignoring the overall picture that anthony is clearly a better offensive player which is the case with wilt..so bill is better for closin in on the gap?
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@harp Russel won 11 titles in a league of 9 teams and against mostly short white guys who smoke after games and have beer bellies. Unleash Jordan in Russel's era? It won't even be fair.
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Bill Russell was nowhere near better than jordan. His 11 rings came from a team that was just dominant. Plus there were only 9 teams and then an expansion to 14 teams back in Bill's day so it was way easier to be a dominant team when you had such small competition.
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61 points and they still barely win. His cast wasn't great at all back then.
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@CHITOWN1987 Russell 11 titles, Jordan 6, stats are only part of the picture. BTW, Jordan was the greatest scorer, but others were just as good in overall game, Bird, Magic, Jabbar, Moses, Chamberlain, could all be called the greatest offensive players ever. But obviously u r biased as your name proves, but Russell 11 titles, damn Jordan ain't even close. Russell got his titles with chamberlain, baylor, west, and the big o in their prime. The celts missed 2 titles in 13 years, case closed!
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@harp1925 and your saying jordan couldnt control the game with defense...he is in the convo as the best perimeter defender in history (alltime leader in blocks 4 a guard,3rd all time in stls, only player to have 200&100 DPOY while averaging 35ppg, 9time all nba defense) & the best offensive player in history....so in your eyes the greatest of all time is someone who can dominate only half the game which is only the defensive side of the court (except when facing wilt which we already gone over)
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@harp1925 (cont) is wilt's 4th best season, bill's best FG% season 46.7% is 5% worst then wilts career average and 26% worst then his best season (72.7%)..in head2head wilt averaged 29&29 bill got 14.5&24...wilt dropped 50+ 8 times& had 40+rebs 7times..bill never scored 40+ on wilt & had 1 game of 40+ reb..so how can he be GOAT if everytime he faced wilt, wilts team had da advantage at da center position..dats like comparing bynum to howard..dwight is better but bynum has the team to win rings
CHITOWN1987 8 months ago 6
@CHITOWN1987 Man, harp it looks like my man chitown got you on this, the man definantly has done his homework. Props to you on that CHI, you ain't just arguing without some facts, you got very valid points. Harp you got good points too, i'm just more inclined to agree with CHITOWN on this one. It's good though for people to be able to disagree and debate on points in an intelligent and insightful manner, and gentlemen i think that's what we have here. Even if we agree to disagree, keep it fun.
delfra70 6 months ago