Debating "Non-Self" with Tsem Tulku Rinpoche. MUST WATCH!!!

Watch this brilliant debate between Tsem Tulku Rinpoche and a student about "non-self"!!!

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[tsemtulku]

TR: Peace arise in one way or two way? By concentration or by understanding the subject?

B: Both.

TR: Very good.

[tsemtulku]

TR: Meditation on what?

B: Actually we must have a certain level of concentration in the mind so that to reach the peaceful level and start to comtemplate on that understanding

TR: So therefore the mind is in peace therefore you can focus, you can stay on the subject more clearly

B: Correct

TR: If you stay on the subject more clearly, you gain understanding, is that correct?

B: Correct

TR: You get understanding, peace arises at the same time.

B: Yes.

[tsemtulku]

TR: so therefore, in your opinion right now, how do we stop wrong preception that preceives everything is unchangeable and stiff and not ever.. In your preception, to change things that we preceive as stiff, unchangeable, what is the first procedure?

B: We must have this preception

TR: Yes, this understanding. For this understanding to become firm, what is necessary?

B: We need to actually purify our mind

TR: How do we purify our mind in your opinion?

B: We must have meditation

[tsemtulku]

TR: It is fixed and permanent because of our distorted view, is that correct

B: Yes

TR: And because of our wrong preception therefore we believe that everything is firm and solid and from that wrong view we suffer, is that correct?

B: Yes

TR: And we create further suffering, is that correct?

B: Yes

TR: And that further sufferings create more further sufferings, is that correct?

B: Yes

TR: Excellent. Excellent.

[tsemtulku]

TR: But your subtle sufferings remain or still won't stop

B: Subtle?

TR: Subtle sufferings remain or stop?

B: Remain

TR: Very good. Very fast and very quick. Therefore, so your subtle still remain, does that mean you are attained?

B: Depends on the level of attainments.

TR: Therefore, to reach out of samsara, to get out of samsara, one need to realise that all things are changeable, is that correct?

B: Correct

TR: And that all things are not fixed and permanent

B:Correct

[tsemtulku]

TR: Will you stop to collecting gross karma if you have the realization of changeability

B: No

TR: Gross karma doesn't stops, gross stubborness doesn't stop, is that correct?

B: No, I mean if you stop the gross karma then they will stop

TR: If you stop believing that the things are not changeable, that they are changeable. Does the gross karma or gross suffering stops?

B: If you only believe, than it's not

TR: If you realized, does your gross suffering stops?

B: Yes

[eaglerock999]

Unfortunately the sound quality is so bad I am unable to follow it,and its all so hurried.

What a pity.

[teamshintaichi]

@tsltrm could you please explain each one? I haven't heard about two kinds. i thought it was just one concept.

[rainbowlght]

Excellent video. Tsem Rinpoche really makes his students THINK! How fortunate and privilege to have such Dharma teachers. I mean lets face it, I ain't going into the jungle to meditate and I ain't going to just abandon my kids. Tsem Rinpoche's teachings helps ppl like me apply Dharma in my life without having to be dramatic or extreme like become a monk or nun, though there is nothing wrong with that. It's just not everyone can. I'm glad Dharma exist for everyone as Buddha intended :)

[tsltrm]

to which non self is the debate about?

in tibetan we have : gangzag ki dagmed and cho ki dagmed. i hope rinpoche had discussed both of them...

[Dungkar80]

This guy sounds like he knows quite a lot of Dharma and this debate dispels a lot of misconceptions we have about things that we hold on so tight that we suffer because of it. That is the beauty of the Dharma. Even on a philosophy-level, by listening and contemplating, one can be liberated and be happy.

[bhusukumode]

Brilliant! But what do we do with such conclusion from such a powerful debate? More intellectual work? More conviction in the Dharma? More willing to listen to the Guru and transform or just nothing?

[frozbyte23]

I am amidst a High Lama, there are many Tulkus and great practitioners from their previous lives. I am sure Rinpoche is doing his best to nuture them to the best of his ability to ensure that they will benefit many people in the future.

[bhusukumode]

What happens if a Tulku doesn't follow his previous life path and goes on and pursue a worldly life? Would he be alright just like anybody else? Will he ever be contented with a worldly life? Hmmm

[frozbyte23]

Hmmm Tulku? Hmmm.... Tulku - Tibetan for Emanation Body of an Enlightened Being. H E Tsem Tulku Rinpoche despite his unconventional style, I could still visualize him as a Tulku but this guy...hmmmm

[Dungkar80]

Wow! Rinpoche is recognizing this guy as an unofficial Tulku. Hope he continues with Dharma work in this life. Heard that many Tulkus goes off when they don't continue their Dharma work. I heard they are called Tulku disease...