Iannis Xenakis - Metastasis

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Iannis Xenakis / Metastaeis from http://www.uni-ak.ac.at/~p0002015/vor...

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[jeli780]

My head turned backwards while listening to the intro! dont know how it happened but my girlfriend ran out of the apartment!

[v1e2ridisQ3u4o]

Xenakis is not a postmodernist. He is in many ways a shining example of high modernism and much of his work builds upon ideas of Schoenberg, Messiaen (which he studied for) and other modernists.

Postmodernist composers are in general those who criticize the intellectualization of music and in particular atonality. They either turn back to tonality or towards some sort of polystylism like Alfred Schnittke.

[candouidus]

'cause you're not cool enough! :P

[MartinMonteleone]

I really want to understand it but my brain keeps telling me "not today bro" ....

[Stygian9]

Why on earth wouldn't sound qualify as an esthetic object? Why are we unable to speak of sound or music as 'beautiful' or 'ugly'?

[pmchsaini]

no... you're not the only one.

[artmaccuinn]

I think many people equate "postmodernism" w/anything that seems intellectual and avant-garde without actually understanding what postmodernism is (and isn't)

[Ben Saunders]

Well - I'd just like to point out to you, the fact that a collection of musicians and played this piece together. If it is, like you say, without pattern - it stands to reason that the piece could not be played more than once in a similar manner?

I would argue that music is the organisation of sound, as it always has been, and will be. You don't have to like it and that's alright, but to deny it as music is rather archaic don't you think? The same was said about rock n roll, punk, EDM and so on.

[devlinoj]

Hey Ed! This is awesome, funny seeing you here, small internet. I'll just quickly counter, I think this is art. For one thing, does it really matter what the composer says when it comes to artistic validation? He's wresting with his own ego and modesty, he might squirm at the label of "artist" with all its high-minded associations. And even if the art doesn't concern itself with aesthetics, there can still be an artistic truth to the work. If someone recognizes it as art, then it might be...?

[Edward Dalley]

NOT ART - I quote ""the qualification "beautiful" or "ugly" makes no sense for sound, nor for the music which derives from it""

the abandonment of aesthetic, disqualifies it as art.

Friendly Tip, Xenakis' music improves in value tenfold if you understand what he is doing

you can get a pdf of his book from google Formalized Music: Thought and mathematics in composition.

he's really an academic, a sonic experimenter.

[Oliver Aoude]

you remind me of my grandmother. She thinks the cinema industry isnt art. If you wish to be ignorant...