Workout Recovery and Rest with Drew Baye

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[lazur1]

Drew Baye & Doug McGuff are the two best strength-training experts today. Where are the viewers?

[Under21convention07]

@lazur1 I'm workin on it! They are both speaking at the convention this summer.

[gbtcsa]

This young man seems to know a lot about lifting weights. Why doesn't he start training ?

[MrSinnerstefan]

@gbtcsa good question...



[lazur1]

The Idea: Safely & efficiently get the most people possible strong, flexible, enduring, lean, stress-resistant, glucose-tolerant, & less insulin-resistant, (i.e.: Generally fit & healthy to the extent exercise can contribute to health). The resemblance to modern bodybuilding is unavoidable, but superficial & misleading. Getting much larger muscles, even naturally, requires genetic potential & an unhealthy high-calorie diet, steroids & HGH being the obvious next step.

[lazur1]

@g:PT3:In a relatively recent interview, (Weiders don't do his talking for him, as they did at least thru '83), Zane now says he used to do "up to 5" sets per exercise. He says he has since realized that he'd never needed to do more than 2. If, after a short rest, you can do a full 2nd set w/the same weight, after a 1st set to true concentric failure, by all means, you should. Over time, after you get a better idea of true failure, this'll become less & less likely.

[lazur1]

@g: @HisBiggest/Zane used steroids. / Yates' injuries due to: 1/Steroids & 2/Lapses in technique. Not intensity: 1/Steroids build muscle; don't do well w/tendons' lesser blood supply=Imbalances between weights one can lift & weights that injure. Injuries occur even w/warm-up weights. 2/Yates jerked & heaved. Proper HIT reps are controlled. Nonetheless, he trained more briefly than every other BBer, didn't take any more drugs than they all took, yet @his best, was bigger&better than all of them

[lazur1]

@g:Men in 1960s did volume, period. No one knew an alternative. By the time Darden was in his late 20s he was HIT; c65 now, most of his adult life. I shudder to think how wrecked he'd be if he'd done volume all this time. / My point re:Zane isn't his training: From his retirement in '83to now, if a guy like you met Frank in his street clothes, you'd complain that he had "no muscle". His neck doesn't fill his collar, he weighs c170. Why? : He's a nturally small guy who's doesn't compete!. PT 1

[gbtcsa]

@lazur1

All four of Drew Baye's favorite athletes are bodybuilders. .I still have that magazine with El Darden on the cover. Dr. Darden was doing 15 sets per bodypart then on a split routine then and he looked very good. Zane did more sets than that, up to 60 for his delts, and Yates results were more the result of his drug cocktails than his training methods. He did suffer career ending injuries from his too intense workouts. You can overtrain in intensity as well as in volume !

[lazur1]

@g:TheBBers:1/A.Jones: founder / inventor of Nautilus & MedX, proponent of hard brief training. 2/E.Darden, author of Nautilus & HIT books, proponent of hard, brief training. 3/MrO, F.Zane, noted for near-perfect proportions. He's continued regular training since retiring, but soon became so slim that when in suit, he'd be described as 'skinny' by anyone who didn't know him. 4/ 6xMrO, D.Yates, noted for training much harder & briefer than any competing pro BBer before him.

[lazur1]

@g:Didn't say he wasnt 'into' BBing: Hes not 'in' it. He competed, long ago, but it's irrelevant: Go to his site. "Shocking lack of development", I disagree: For drug-free mid-aged businessmen, he's top 1% lean mass, Unless bro's proven-clean id twin,I don't see a point. Not everyone strives for size. Many retired BBers strive to shrink. EX: BBer-to-bike racer Kal Skalak. Being huge's detrimental to performance of many activities, such as BW exercises, which Drew's about to focus on.

[gbtcsa]

If Baye isn't into bodybuilding why are all four of his favorite athletes on his Facebook page bodybuilders ?

Two are steroid guzzling Mr. O winners, one a 300 pound mass monster.

Has Drew ever entered a bb contest ?

Stop using the poor genetics excuse. I saw Drew's brother place high at a Mr. A contest so Drew's genes can't be too bad. Baye's shocking lack of muscular development is due to his ineffective training method.

Drew is arrogant and lazy. He needs to do many more sets to grow.

[lazur1]

@g "Champion"s?: Drug-guzzling, calorie-stuffing,1 in a million genetic freaks. Baye isn't in "bodybullding...": He doesn't train people to pose on stage. He's in resistance training. He's helped many get muscular, lean, & strong. He's gained as much much muscle as any sane human would want to gain, but he started small: A typical "Mr O" starts out bigger than Drew is now, with NO training, which you seem to think's a virtue. His methods are effective,safe & time-efficient, not "the best".