christians are obsessed with their "sin." adam ate a apple put there by god himself and then god gets pissed when he eats it. so all humankind is "damned" for this? literally or figuratively, this is ridiculous. (altho if god/eden/apple are figurative then whats the point?) it's a nonsensical, mythical construct. and it's annoying. so, christians, stop nattering about your imaginary "sin" ok? you're just boring us now. jesus didnt die for our sins, he just died.
She says she wants to take advantage of the this life and that is why she doesn't want to believe in God. In other words, to deny the God of the bible is how she can take advantage of this life. The truth is, she wants to sin which is what she calls taking advantage of this life. To her sinning is equal to taking advantage of this life. She probably means she wants to have sinful sex because what does the bible say we shouldn't take advantage of? That amounts to spreading disease.
this chick didn't prove anything, very poor argument. to grantydg...the bible does specify that when you die your flesh returns to the earth it came from, the spirit returns to God because he gave it us, and the soul is judged on judgement day for its eternal sentence...lake of fire, or the new jerusalem
@GrantyDg Funny thing is... the bible says over and over that when you die you don't go anywhere but just lay in your grave until eaten by bugs. Seems not too many christians read the bible though.
So I guess the bible and atheists agree, hell and heaven (in the clouds with the bearded guy) are relatively modern ideas and based on the kids version of christianity.
@pengendownload not only in Indonesia this kinds of rituals exists. In all parts of the world, people are still worshiping spirits and stuff. People with DIFFERENT beliefs, DIFFERENT gods than the Indonesians. Yet all believe they are being possessed by some supernatural being, and are 100% convinced THEIR belief is real. Sounds illogical to me.
(Continue...) However... Thanks a lot for your comment, I really appreciate.
I hope someday you can come to Indonesia, and watch the traditional dance (i.e. "Kuda Lumping"). When the performers are so called possessed by demon, they will start to eat glasses (real glasses / porcelain) using bare mouth without bleeding. At that time you can try to eat the same glass. If your mouth bleeds, then you must believe that demon does exist.. Haha... :))
@briddle2 Cool strawman bro.
wolverine005 49 minutes ago
christians are obsessed with their "sin." adam ate a apple put there by god himself and then god gets pissed when he eats it. so all humankind is "damned" for this? literally or figuratively, this is ridiculous. (altho if god/eden/apple are figurative then whats the point?) it's a nonsensical, mythical construct. and it's annoying. so, christians, stop nattering about your imaginary "sin" ok? you're just boring us now. jesus didnt die for our sins, he just died.
skat1140 2 hours ago
She says she wants to take advantage of the this life and that is why she doesn't want to believe in God. In other words, to deny the God of the bible is how she can take advantage of this life. The truth is, she wants to sin which is what she calls taking advantage of this life. To her sinning is equal to taking advantage of this life. She probably means she wants to have sinful sex because what does the bible say we shouldn't take advantage of? That amounts to spreading disease.
briddle2 18 hours ago
this chick didn't prove anything, very poor argument. to grantydg...the bible does specify that when you die your flesh returns to the earth it came from, the spirit returns to God because he gave it us, and the soul is judged on judgement day for its eternal sentence...lake of fire, or the new jerusalem
salvaloco13 23 hours ago
i luv this women. i hope i get to meet her when i go to london
2yung4grey 1 day ago
@GrantyDg "It's not measurable, observable or repeatable"
Then it is not science and is therefore irrelevant.
Well done.
SeedsOfHatred 1 day ago
@GrantyDg Funny thing is... the bible says over and over that when you die you don't go anywhere but just lay in your grave until eaten by bugs. Seems not too many christians read the bible though.
So I guess the bible and atheists agree, hell and heaven (in the clouds with the bearded guy) are relatively modern ideas and based on the kids version of christianity.
mryellow123 1 day ago
@pengendownload not only in Indonesia this kinds of rituals exists. In all parts of the world, people are still worshiping spirits and stuff. People with DIFFERENT beliefs, DIFFERENT gods than the Indonesians. Yet all believe they are being possessed by some supernatural being, and are 100% convinced THEIR belief is real. Sounds illogical to me.
SCDigitalPhotography 1 day ago
@GrantyDg exactly. and the human brain might just be too limited to understand EVERYTHING.
SCDigitalPhotography 1 day ago
@SCDigitalPhotography
(Continue...) However... Thanks a lot for your comment, I really appreciate.
I hope someday you can come to Indonesia, and watch the traditional dance (i.e. "Kuda Lumping"). When the performers are so called possessed by demon, they will start to eat glasses (real glasses / porcelain) using bare mouth without bleeding. At that time you can try to eat the same glass. If your mouth bleeds, then you must believe that demon does exist.. Haha... :))
pengendownload 1 day ago