Madalyn Murray O'Hair: The First Lady of White Atheism (Part 2)

"Two days later there was a knock on Bob Fry's door. David Waters and another man stood on the porch. The men came inside and made sure Bob Fry was alone. David Waters questioned Bob Fry closely. 'The people that sent us are worse than the Mafia' David Waters warned. They'd have no qualms about getting the letter by whatever means it took". [Seaman, Ann. "America's Most Hated Woman: The Life and Gruesome Death of Madalyn Murray O'Hair". Continuum , 2005]

People are murdered for a lot of reasons; yet, in the case of the Murray O'Hairs' there were only four theories and two of them were false...while only one provided truth and the other was speculation (i.e. unprovable). Here is a list of theories as follows; but, I will not explain the reasons behind them. I will leave that research up to the reader: 1). All of them are dead. (i.e. True); 2). They're alive and living in Mexico or some other third world country. (i.e. False); 3). The Vatican or the C.I.A. did it. (i.e. Speculation); 4). Madalyn Died! Jon and Robin disposed of her body and took off. (i.e. False).

Reference Sources:

1). Bryce, Robert: "Abducted by Aliens?". The Austin Chronicle,
http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol18/issue12/pols.ohair.html, November 28th 1998

2). Bryce, Robert: "Where, Oh, Where are the Murray O'Hair's?". The Austin Chronicle, http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol18/issue12/pols.ohair.side2.html,1998

3). Ward, Terrence. "The History of Atheism". Internet Archive, http://ia600802.us.archive.org/10/items/HistoryOfAtheism/BlackAtheismTheRosar..., 2010

4). Ward, Terrence. "Atheos Records Press: Student Guide". Internet Archive, http://ia700808.us.archive.org/23/items/AtheosRecordsPressStudentGuide/Studen...

BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON MADALYN'S STRANGE BIRTH:

"Hi Terrence! I have received your request for "The History of the Caul" in PDF format". [End Quote]

Thanks Mrs. Shannon! I received the PDF booklet! Nevertheless, the history of the Caul is definitely a fascinating subject. Currently, I'm reading the book "Americas Most Hated Woman: The Life and Gruesome Death of Madalyn Murray O'Hair" by Ann Seaman (i.e. the only biographer to have interviewed the Murray O'Hair family murderer David Waters) published in 2005. In Chapter 2 of her book, Mrs. Shannon, this certain passage directed me to study more about the Caul which led me to your website and others:

"At 9:00 A.M. on April 13, 1919 (i.e. Palm Sunday) a 7.5 pound girl was born, blue, under a dark Caul that the doctor had to remove so she could breathe". [Seaman, Ann. "America's Most Hated Woman: The Life and Gruesome Death of Madalyn Murray O'Hair". Continuum International Publishing; 2005]

In my research, nonetheless, I will cite a few facts and/or mythology in relation to the Caul:

1). "Birth with a Caul is rare (i.e. occurring in fewer than 1 in 80,000 births)!" [Wikipedia. "Caul". Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, 2004-2011]
2). "You were born with a Caul! That means you got powers to read palms and tell fortunes - and wonderful things are gonna happen to you". [Gypsy, Lee. "Gypsy: A Memoir". Harper, 1957]
3). "Sigmund Freud was born in a caul! This unusual circumstance was a source of great delight to his mother, Amalia, for according to folklore a child so born was destined to a life of happiness and fame". [Margolis, Deborah. "Freud and His Mother". Modern Psychoanalysis, 1989]
4). "The veil is a term used to describe the separation between dimensions; so, it is said that such children are gifted to see beyond the veil (i.e. also known as the Caul). Nevertheless, it also can be seen as a curse by some because such gifts also carry with them some powerful challenges and heavy burdens". [Danielle. "Superstitions About Babies and Cauls". Global Psychics, 1997-2010]
5). "In medieval times the appearance of a Caul on a newborn baby was seen as a sign of good luck. It was considered an omen that the child was destined for greatness. Gathering the Caul onto paper was considered an important tradition of childbirth: the midwife would rub a sheet of paper across the baby's head and face, pressing the material of the Caul onto the paper. The Caul would then be presented to the mother, to be kept as an heirloom. Some Early Modern European traditions linked Caul birth to the ability to defend fertility and the harvest against the forces of evil, particularly witches and sorcerers". [Wikipedia. "Caul". Wikipedia: The FreeEncyclopedia; Wikipedia.org, 2004-2011]
6). "My friend was born with a veil as it's called in Texas. She has always shown psychic abilities; so, because of this she needed special care (i.e. training). Public information about the Crystal Children and the Violet Children will help you understand her mission on earth better. These children have vision and wisdom!" [Laura. "Superstitions About Babies and Cauls". Global Psychics; GlobalPsychics.com, 1997-2010]

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[MrAtheosRecords]

A few months later she discovered that he had secretly been soliciting random men from Craigslist for sex during their entire relationship. Therefore, its not uncommon and/or complicated for men such as David Waters to play a heterosexual male in public; but, screw men in the booty in private while at the same time maintaining girlfriends, wives, e.t.c.

[MrAtheosRecords]

Check out this reference source:

1). Tennis, Carey. "A Bisexual Sociopath Wrecked my Life". Salon Media Group, 2011

In that article, Mr. Chance, is a true story of a woman who was swept off her feet by a man who presented every image to her of a loving heterosexual boyfriend; but, guess what?

[MrAtheosRecords]

You need to look at the history of David Waters from his youth up unto his incarcerations in correctional facilities (i.e. where high occurrences of bisexuality are documented among male inmates). To simply shrug this off and/or ignore it speaks volumes on where you would like to place David Waters in our dialogue refusing to mention his bisexual preferences that could've played a role in his sociopathic behavior.

[MrAtheosRecords]

"David Waters problems with people is because he was a sociopath and not because of his sexual preferences". [End Quote]

I beg to disagree! While it's true that David Waters actions were largely due to his sociopath behavior; yet, we know from psychological research that people like David Waters don't spring up out of the blue and start killing people.

[MrAtheosRecords]

"That's your reference source? An Atheist wanting to shirk it off onto a religious person?". [End Quote]

Huh? So, now reporter Robert Bryce is an Atheist and local Austin Chronicle media is an Atheist organization? Wow! You're really desperate, Mr. Chance, to suggest that the reference sources I quoted was a biased Atheist article when that is clearly false!

[MrAtheosRecords]

"Madalyn was murdered by an office manager she selected". [End Quote]

1). Madalyn Murray O'Hair wasn't in charge of doing criminal background investigations; so, she left that task up to her grand daughter. Unfortunately, a comprehensive criminal background investigation wasn't done and David Waters being the true Christian that he is didn't bother to mention his criminal background either. I thought Christians were supposed to be honest, Mr. Chance? Apparently not!

[MrAtheosRecords]

After all, Mr. Kevin, I'm sure Christians who sincerely believe in the Bible wouldn't have a problem reciting the Atheist Prayers would they? Why can't Christians show respect to their neighborly Atheist?

[MrAtheosRecords]

Secondly, Mr. Kevin, why would Madalyn force Christianity on her children when she didn't dare to even force Atheism upon her family? Let me ask you, Mr. Kevin, would you urge a hard nose Bible believing family to teach their children the "good things" [End Quote] concerning the Atheist Prayer (such as "acknowledging logic and critical thinking") and think on that?

[MrAtheosRecords]

"Madalyn could have taught her children to take the good being said in the Lord's prayer". [End Quote]

Guess what, Mr. Kevin? Madalyn even took her children to church and they use to come home telling her how stupid the Lord's Prayer was and they knew it was all a fraud. Hahahahahahahahaaha! Stop trying to blame everything on Madalyn even her children knew Christianity was a scam at an early age

[MrAtheosRecords]

“Mother! I don’t know what an Atheist is. Did you ever really talk to me about it all these years? If you are so damned convinced about it why don’t you try to teach me?”. [O’Hair, M. Madalyn. “An Atheist Epic: The Complete Unexpurgated Story of How Bible and Prayers Were Removed from the Public Schools of the United States ”. American Atheist Press; 2nd Edition, October 1st 1989]