David Humphries on Politics, Anarcho-Capitalism & the Free State Project

When working in Roseburg, OR the http://motorhomediaries.com crew were pleased to meet fellow lover of liberty David Humphries (PrometheusforLiberty online on sites like http://fr33agents.net). In this video David gives an overview about his personal journey to the ideas of liberty and where they have led him - considering moving to New Hampshire as part of the http://freestateproject.org.

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[RationalDischarge]

His philosophical evolution is identical to my own. Isn't it ironic that the political candidacy of one Constitutionalist libertarian/conservative has created so many new Voluntaryists and Anarcho-Capitalists? Makes me think maybe political action isn't pointless after all.

[Prometheusforliberty]

Or are they

[synchronium24]

@khunag "Or even better - become your own boss."

I'll agree with this one point!

[7ty714]

@synchronium24 I think you have a warped perception about the free market and capitalism (as I did before I started doing research). The state of the economy today, where the rich get richer and the poorer get poorer, is a result of corporate and tax laws, central banking and the use of force to redistribute wealth to certain companies. This is called crony capitalism, or corporatism. Corporations (as they are today) wouldn't exist in a free market because they are a result of corporate law.

[khunag]

@synchronium24 Nope, you make it sound like "the bosses" are some aliens from a different planet and you're something else and that's it. But you choose your bosses in the same way he chooses employees, he can fire you, and you can "fire" him, and find a different boss. Or even better - become your own boss. Starting a business in pure free market economy would be as easy as - make stuff -> sell stuff. I always hated to have a boss myself so now I don't have one, wasn't that hard honestly.

[synchronium24]

@khunag again, i agree that you have a choice, in the loosest sense, not to work. the point is that the CONDITIONS of work itself are unfair. choosing to work and not smoke weed means you'll get work, but it doesn't mean that that you will be bargaining on an even foot with your boss. they got the goods, they make the rules.

[khunag]

@synchronium24 And in your example the contract is not forced on you by anyone. Yeah, you would have to be in a REALLY bad position to only have this one choice, this one contract you have to sign to to earn any money (an absurd situation that's impossible in free market economy), but putting to blame on the only person that gave you any opportunity and is basically saving you from starvation is ridiculous. If you want to control the means of production start your own bussiness, it's easy.

[khunag]

@synchronium24 Of course it is, for example I could've stayed in bed today and say "fuck it, I don't feel like working or doing anything, I'm just gonna roll a joint and sleep all day". I made a choice to do otherwise, since I have important stuff to do today. Staying in bed would be a very bad idea and I would have some serious problems if I did it. Doesn't mean I didn't have a choice.

[synchronium24]

@khunag just cuz a contract is agreed to, doesn't mean the contract wasn't coerced. sure, there's no one with a gun to your head forcing you to agree to the terms, but you have very little opportunity in the way of alternatives. even if you choose to work for someone else, they are still not allowing you to utilize the factors of production, which means you will be at a negotiating disadvantage BEFORE the contract is ever constructed. On a practical level, the choice is not free,

[khunag]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 "Capitalist bosses" have no authority. If I pay someone to do some work for me it's a contract, he will do the work and I will pay him, we are equals, I'm exchanging my property for his work, simple. He doesn't have to work for me, I don't have to hire him, we're free people. I guess I am a landlord, I rent part of my house, what's your problem with that? It's mine and I can do whatever I want with it. Someone wants a place to live, I want some extra money, we're both happy.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

@khunag How do you justify the authority of capitalist bosses and property owners/landlords?

[khunag]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 I couldn't care less. You can start calling cats zebras if you want, but they're still cats.