Noah's flood

Some arguments concerning Noah's flood and why it didn't happen.

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[beyondbedandbathisme]

This is absurd. Everyone knows the universe was created by manbearpig when the penguins drowned in coca cola after the polar bears ice melted and Obama restled Lucifer into submission and made him return the cotton candy back to Mario and Luigi who subsequently sold Santa Claus into slavery.

Confused? That's how hearing creationism bs makes me feel!

[theatheistguy]

Ah yes, but you forget, the inside of the ark is exactly like Dr. Who's Tardis....

[PJDesseyn]

@modernrocks: you assert God exists and is energy, without any evidence whatsoever. Please first prove God exists, without using any further baseless claims, before you can claim he's energy.

To clarify: you can't say "God created X" before proving God exists.

It's one of those questions theists can never answer...

[modernrocks]

@PJDesseyn You didnt pay attention to my words, I said cgod the eternal who is not made of matter exists always, in all times at the same time. Energy is eternal god is energy. God(energy) created matter(e=mc2,works both ways), once matter existed time or the measure of changes in matter began.if you read by last comment and this you shopuld see my point.

[PJDesseyn]

@modernrocks: anyway, short answer: energy is eternal and completely natural, and God is known to be imaginary (like any other god), so how about we all accept reality and not worship non-existing beings, okay?

[PJDesseyn]

@modernrocks: matter may not be eternal nor infinite, but energy is. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, and thus always existed and always will exist. They're like God, only real and non-sentient.

Also note that, if time had a beginning, then God must have a beginning as well, because something can't exist without time, as there would be no moment when it exists. There is no "before time" or "outside the realm of time", as time is a requirement for existence and especially for actions.

[modernrocks]

@PJDesseyn You dont understand, infinity has a beginning. God is eternal that means no beginning no end. God exists in the past present and future, yesterday today and forever. Atleast that is what the bible says. Time is the measure of changes in matter. Matter cant be be eternal or even infinite, thus time must have had a beginning, even scientist agree time had a beginning. It is impossible for an ifinite or never ending amount of time to have passed before this momment in time.

[PJDesseyn]

@alexross8: 0 is the reference point. It then counts 1 as the first room, 2 as the second, etc. or did you miss that part in preschool?

You CAN talk about Noah's flood. You just can't prove it, because it never happened. It CAN'T happen. It violates just about every law of nature. Besides, God has nothing to do with any of this. Flood stories are told around the world. They're just adapted to local superstitions. I prefer the actual facts, not the fiction.

[PJDesseyn]

@alexross8: but I'm not saying time had a beginning...I'm saying time always existed, as does space and energy...and any natural explanation always trumps any supernatural one, so nature FTW.

Also, why can't time be infinite? You claim God is infinite, and as said, any natural explanation always trumps any supernatural one, so if the choice was time vs God, everything else being the same, time always wins.

We live in the present. "this moment" always exists.

[alexross8]

@PJDesseyn

How can you take room 1686418157?

In infinity , there is no reference point.

If that room does exist , then room 1 exists , but so does -1 and -1686418157 , and so on. Even if there were a reference point , it wouldn't matter. If there are an infinite number of rooms , what room is first in the hallway?

"First" is an absurdity , it cannot happen.

I can't talk about Noah's flood , because you don't believe in God , so there is really no point.

[alexross8]

@PJDesseyn

If time had a beginning , how did it begin?

If you say that it simply happened , then that would mean that there was an event that triggered time to come into existence , which is scientifically impossible , because it requires an amount of time.

Time couldn't be infinite , because there would be an infinite time leading up to this moment , therefore this moment didn't take place. The only likely possibility is that time did begin , but not through the process of time.

[NorthForkFisherman]

@alexross8 Actually, what has this got to do with Noah's Flood? That's a question that was settled long ago by geologist and chemists. It didn't happen. You're asking about things that even theoretical physicists have a hard time explaining coherently to the general public. Let's get back on point: No flood, period. The evidence found in the Earth's crust directly precludes it.