Explaining evolution to a creationist

This is how I feel when I try to explain evolution to a creationist. The frustration in Father Ted's body language is identical to the one that every rational-minded person feels when faced with people who will believe in talking snakes but simply cannot grasp the most fundamental basics of science.

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[hawklord2001]

@smcneal057 "I am a Christian and I accept evolution as a fact, but I believe that something had to start it all."

Of course something had to start the process. The question non believers ask is why do believers assert that it was started by a benevolent intelligence? There is 0 evidence to support such a belief.

Ask yourself why when it comes to understanding nature, not 1 mystery we have ever solved turned out to be God Did It. Not 1.

[aldebarankanon]

What's funnier, the dumb priest who doesn't get it or the crazy priest that expects different results from doing the same thing?

[hawklord2001]

@Ioannesmartialis "It is obvious that Science cannot replace God; it can't determine moral values, for example."

I understand this to mean that you assert that God is the Moral Law giver?

Are Gods commands good because he says so or because they are intrinsically good?

If Gods nature is such that he can only command what is good. Where did God get his nature from?

[hawklord2001]

@hawklord2001 My position is not that GOD does not exist, my position is IF God does exist, either we have some way to demonstrate that he manifests some way in reality indicating that he does in fact exist or we don’t.

If we don’t , then his existence is indistinguishable from his nonexistence and it’s a moot point. Until we have evidence then we have NO GOOD REASO to believe it. That's where faith steps in.

[hawklord2001]

@Ioannesmartialis "Just because there's no evidence does not make God nonexistent or the idea false.'

Agreed, that being the case, ANYTHING you say about or ascribe to God is 100% speculation and for some, wishful thinking. The natural world is all we can address. There is no reason to believe that the supernatural exists until such time as we demonstrate it in some way.

[Ioannesmartialis]

@hawklord2001 In short, you can't prove a negative. You can't prove "There's -no- God." Being can only arise from being, not from non-being. Non-being has no properties, no potentialities, and no powers. When something begins to exist, there must be some other being that caused it to exist. If the Universe began to exist and came to being, there must be a transcendent Cause which would explain why the Universe came to existence.

[Ioannesmartialis]

@hawklord2001

Just because there's no evidence does not make God nonexistent or the idea false. You didn't disprove the Earth was Flat because there's no evidence for the Flatness of the Earth; instead, it is because people proved the Earth was spherical. Likewise, you need to put forth an idea and prove that such an idea negates the existence of God. It is obvious that Science cannot replace God; it can't determine moral values, for example. (Or else there wouldn't be murders.)

[kidspirationtutorial]

@SeedsOfHatred That might be a bit of a scripture fail- King James bible changes the word poisoner to witch. So the bible itself doesn't condemn witches with hooked noses, brooms and magic spells- but rather people who make poisons from herbs.

[SeedsOfHatred]

@ndrthrdr1 Well, actually, there are of course such things as witches. There have been for quite some time (hundreds; thousands of years).

They may not conjure true "spells" and have dealings with the Devil, no, but there are certainly witches.

What these "witches" do in the way of spiritism; the Christians and their Bible do not approve of, so the scriptures demand that they be put to death.

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@SuperMrAtheist

Eledyles did NOT evolve from Crocofants.

And the monkeyZ... funny thing

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