Predictions of the Theory of Evolution

EDIT: The section entitled 'Mendelian Genetics' should read 'Non-dilution of traits'

YouTube massacres some links so take care when copying them.

Transitional fossils:
(http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html)

Precambrian fossils:
(http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/97/13/6947.pdf)

Origins of human chromosome number 2
Telomere duplication:
(http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/88/20/9051.pdf)
Detailed analysis of human chromosome number 2:
(http://www.bx.psu.edu/miller_lab/dist/chr2.4.pdf)
Comparison of human DNA to primate DNA:
(http://www.genome.org/cgi/reprint/12/11/1663.pdf)
(http://www.genome.org/cgi/reprint/12/11/1651.pdf)

Introduction to cell division and the role of the centromere:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/baby/divide.html

'Discovery' institute article containing quote:
(http://www.evolutionnews.org/2006/01/intelligent_design_is_empirica.html)

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[amotionlesson]

Evolution is still wrong, despite all your technobable. God did it all.

HAHAHA, I'm sorry, I can't even say that shit with a straight face.

Great video, sir. Very well done.

[themadhair]

So taking evidence at face value is metaphysics now?

You have no evidence supporting your claims, and up until now all you have offered is your basic personal misunderstandings of concepts in genetics and biology. Apparently having no evidence can be fixed by claiming others that follow the available evidence are merely imposing their own metaphysics.

This is about evidence and what that evidence shows. Your metaphysics is your way to try wriggling around that inconvenient fact. Have fun.

[circusOFprecision]

@themadhair

The pope? Do I seem like I give a shit about the pope? You want to make this about religion vs. science. Go ahead and have fun playing with yourself. This is about metaphysics. You seem to believe that life evolves in a completely mechanistic and materialistic fashion. You claim the evidence supports this view. That is your metaphysics. I'm saying your wrong. Psychological projection? Every look in the mirror? Guess not not. Why would you, you have google.

[themadhair]

>>metaphysics

Actually you have this entirely backwards, and this claim applies solely to yourself. The fucking pope accepts evolution. If the head of the largest Christian denomination in the world can accept the science then this isn’t a metaphysics scenario. Not unless you hold a particular brand of theology that makes you reject the science.

Basically, I see some psychological projection here.

[themadhair]

>>drop your argument from credulity

To take an example, you asked why the chromosomes were not identical. The basic genetic principles needed to understand why this is a daft question are all over the shop, from Wikipedia to papers that measure the genetic drift in humans. If you hold the misconception that two chromosomes should be identical then you need to do more reading. No credulity argument, just an observation that you need to do some basic research.

[Mdebacle]

@circusOFprecision

If humans were ancestors (not cousins or descendants) of Neanderthal:

(A) for evolution this would drastically affect the timeline, and also demolish the 'Out of Africa' theory.

(B) for creationist this would mean confronting the hybrid theory. An article in AiG 'Chimp-human hybridization: two of a kind or two different kinds' rejects the idea, but the evolutionist (Hawks) sees the danger if ALL hominids were hybrids.

[circusOFprecision]

@themadhair

I'm not denying evolution or even common ancestry as valid scientific ideas. I'm trying to wrap my head around how. You seem to think it's all population genetics and mutations. That's your answer and correct me if I'm wrong, it also fits neatly into your metaphysics as well. That's all that is going on here. But I bet you will simply think I am ignorant.

[circusOFprecision]

@themadhair

Look, you can believe what you like. Google is fine for some things, but for the most part it only points me to other people's opinions. So go ahead and drop your argument from credulity now.

[themadhair]

>>why do all humans possess this curious chromosome?

Because an ancestor, common to all humans, passed it down after developing it and it grew to dominate in the population. You have to remember that, historically, all humans arose in a colony in Africa. The smaller population then made it easier for this trait to dominate.

>>because there isn't enough information

Every question/comment you have had could have been answered with a simple google search. Why no google?

[themadhair]

>>ERVs don't play a role in animal evolution?

Pretty much. Aside from maybe providing extra space for mutations, they don’t have an impact on animal evolution. If the ERV is activated the cell is killed before it reproduces then and there. If not activated it just provides extra space as above.

There are genes in dogs not present in any wolves. The clue for you should have been the inability of dogs to breed with wolves.

[themadhair]

>>Doesn't tell me anything about the fusion event

Why would it? If you want to learn about chromosomal fusions then how about looking it up? Otherwise, I don’t understand the point of this question.

>>chromosomes are not identical.

Genetic drift. Ffs no two human chromosomes are identical outside of twins/clones. You did know that right?