Women, class and capitalism - Judith Orr, Laurie Penny and Nina Power - Marxism 2011

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[codownni]

@MysteryOfTheFence

Sensible, controlled, consensual, immigration can build national pride and patriotism. Immigration only has negative social affects when it is uncontrolled, unnecessary, non-consensual or economically/morally unwise.

[codownni]

@MysteryOfTheFence "Restricting bonuses and the financial sector is far harder in a more globalised world." Harder, slightly, agreeing to global commitments is far from impossible."limiting immigration; FMC prefers freedom of movement of labour to benefit global capital "It is socialised healthcare + ageing population that creates a young-workers deficit which is then filled by immigration. The young are brought into work for the government's social experiments.

[MysteryOfTheFence]

@codownni The nature of global FMC inevitably reduces the power of national governments and hinders their ability to plan on a national level. e.g. Restricting bonuses and the financial sector is far harder in a more globalised world.

Patriotism enshrines supposed unique virtues in the national character and seeks to protect the nation by limiting immigration; FMC prefers freedom of movement of labour to benefit global capital.

[codownni]

@MysteryOfTheFence

Free-market capitalism erodes national identity? You mean certain avoidable aspects of fmc does? Why would one have to choose between patriotism and free market? Is it impossible to be a patriotic capitalist? What does choosing between fmc and patriotism have to do with national sovereignty?

[MysteryOfTheFence]

@codownni Free-market capitalism erodes national identity - which is as inevitable as chilly weather in the north-east of England in January!

To be at all consistent, right-wingers have to choose between patriotism and the free market.

[codownni]

@MysteryOfTheFence

what central point is that?

[felixcock]

''can we pay somebody else to do our job?''

[MysteryOfTheFence]

Some excellent points from Nina Power about the de-professionalising of care work. The Big Society favours an exploitative idea of work for the social good not being rewarded by pay. Ludicrous.

[MysteryOfTheFence]

The 'Scar-Girls'!? The Sun really is a moronic paper.

[MysteryOfTheFence]

@sparky6952 And the world would be put to rights if narrow-minded, insular and anti-intellectual UKIP folk were in power, I assume? Pro-free market capitalists who complain about national sovereignty being eroded are missing a rather central point.