Follow us at twitter.com/verumserum. Sen. Grassley quoting Rep. Jan Schakowsy, Rep. Barney Frank, and Washington Post reporter Ezra Klein who have all previously admitted that the public option is a strategy for moving towards a government-run, single-payer system. From September 29, 2009.
That argument about car and health insurance not being comparable doesn't fly. Both are a business and I doubt anyone can get along without either.
Look at all the claim lines Medicare denies, look at all the fraudulent payments made by it, look at how little doctors get paid under it.
The public option won't contain cost.
This was tried in HI with Keiki Care, UHC for children. So many people (who already had private ins.) flooded that "public option" they had to dump it after 7 months.
UTubekookdetector 2 years ago
And what happened? Budget balanced and a period of economic stability, until your boy Bush stepped in.
dutchhaze1 2 years ago
Car insurance and Health insurance are far from the same thing. This goes back to my argument that HEALTH is important and something the Gov. should step in and make sure it's done right. I'm not even for universal health care, but I am for cost containment and the public option is the PERFECT way to contain cost. The Insurance companies have shown that they WILL increase premiums at will to help their bottom lines. Look at the PwC report.
dutchhaze1 2 years ago
P.S. Clinton and his Dem Congress were the last ones to raise payroll taxes on the middle class.
UTubekookdetector 2 years ago
Are you admitting your "facts" on who pays what share of income taxes is incorrect?
Whether I cheer the dealer or not is irrelevant.
UTubekookdetector 2 years ago
Payroll tax has been raised on the middle class.
The top 1% also OWN 90% of the nations WEALTH! You're really not thinking about this are you?
Do you cheer when you see the dealer win at the casino?
dutchhaze1 2 years ago
"Baby Boomers are getting OLD."
I find it hilarious that the gov't never considered the affects on this legalized SS Ponzi scheme if they base shrinks and the top expands exponentially.
Clinton's top income tax levels were still well below those of the 70s, he did it with a GOP Congress and he lowered the cap gains tax to 20%, from 28%.
I've seen the IRS data, the top quintile pay more than the bottom four. Sorry!
UTubekookdetector 2 years ago
You act like we didnt see this coming. Baby Boomers are getting OLD! This was expected.
43 Trillion is an ESTIMATION, not a real number. That's like me saying I will live to be only 70 because all four of my grandparents did. Means nothing if I don't do anything to prevent it.
Last time we balanced the budget (D-Bill Clinton) we did it by raising taxes on the wealthy, among other things. Wealthy Americans pay less taxes in %.
A 25 yr old would be DENIED much less than if 89 on a deathbed!
dutchhaze1 2 years ago
The payroll tax has already been raised over a dozen times since it was enacted, you're only kicking the can down the road and raising costs on growing companies.
As far as cutting taxes for the wealthy, you do realize the top 1% pay a larger share of all income taxes collected than the bottom 95% and the bottom 50% barely pay taxes at all.
UTubekookdetector 2 years ago
Our premiums are rising because of all these third-party payments. As I said before, car insurance doesn't pay for oil changes, why does health insurance pay for the chiropracter?
Health insurance should be for extreme events like surgery or a heart bypass, etc.
My solution is to scuttle most of these mandates and allow people to purchase health ins. across state lines.
Dump these community rating and guaranteed issue provisions too.
UTubekookdetector 2 years ago