Why the "but the audience liked it!" argument isn't a persuasive aesthetic argument

Check out Aaron's Video, it covers a lot of good ground that I do not cover here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spI_IX1oHgM

bigrattreeten's Original Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdUzrUxsb0E&feature=player_detailpage#t=941s

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[KDaltonIrish]

The crowd reaction in UWFi are something to behold. Those sort of " pops " are like the icing on an already fucking superb cake! The ROH crowds can tend to be far to loud. Sometimes all a match needs is some silence to add tension. Good vid

[DanielTalksPuroresu]

@KDaltonIrish Yeh the UWF-I crowds were great - so many knowledgeable spectators that would respond to all the little details. The early pancase crowds were great as well (probably a lot of the same sorts of folks!) and they were often dead silent - you could hear the wrestlers breathing!

[Kocosports]

TNA does force Universal Studios employees to watch and tell them how to be planted fans.

[DanielTalksPuroresu]

@Kocosports "TNA does force Universal Studios employees to watch and tell them how to be planted fans"

Wow... I've got.. nothing... o_0

[bigratthreeten]

I meant that wrestlers are trained to work a crowd with the one "pop" being the finish and getting them to buy into the match. Not necessarily to get them jumping every 5 seconds. You were right in that I did not fully understand your aesthetic viewpoint. I 100% understand how you view matches now and I thought this video was tremendous. You clarified your position very well and I really can not provide a counter-response. Great job once again man. Thanks again for the response

[DanielTalksPuroresu]

@bigratthreeten Brilliant! Glad you liked it :)

[DanielTalksPuroresu]

@jb0609 "Great", not off the top of my head. But there are a lot of good matches played out to polite applause. It's also entirely irrelevant. Why? Correlation =/= causation. It's also not the argument that I made in the video.

[DanielTalksPuroresu]

@puromark09 Of course! But the thing is, whether or not a crowd likes a match and their reaction to it are neither qualifying nor disqualifying criteria for a match being good. Basically, it's only part of the picture! :)

Also, some crowds are dead silent but are super-in-love with the match. You see that a lot in shoot-style.

[KingAndy1992]

I don't think a good crowd reaction necessarily means a match is good, but a bad crowd reaction usually means a match is bad, assuming the wrestlers are performing in front of their usual fans.