Chomsky on American Pride and Jingoism

Should we really be so proud of America, knowing its history of slaughter and slavery?

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[Pighood]

Chopsky never seems to have a problem with soviet pride and jingoism.

[AntonBatey]

@Pighood

Tell me the book or speech when he said he was proud of the USSR.

[AntonBatey]

You're an idiot. Chomsky never "praises Arab states that still enslave black African people".

[MrGrevy]

@Lukege15 Could you explain what you think is idiotic about that? Native americans and blacks did in fact own slaves...he is consciously choosing to mislead people.

[Lukege15]

@MrGrevy You're consciously choosing to be an idiot.

[MrGrevy]

@LibertyDownUnder He's only supported by very useless and bizarre pseudo academics. Not much of an accomplishment.

[MrGrevy]

He never talks about the "native americans" or blacks who owned slaves. Shouldn't he speak the whole truth??

[thegillotine09]

Eh, America has some good things and some bad things in its history, just like every other country. In my opinion, the good outweighs the bad, but I'd still never be "proud" of something that's only a matter of where I was born.

[LibertyDownUnder]

@agapeiron, the situation I'm talking about is a rich guy owning all the available land in a particular area - that's impossible.

If the richest man in the world today, Bill Gates, tried to buy "all the land" he would run out of money after 7-8 modern day suburbs. and that's assuming he can manage to liquidate all his shares in MicroSoft without causing a major crash in them...

Even if he could, why, why why would anyone do this, and then not use his land productively?

There's no sense in this.

[agapeiron]

@LibertyDownUnder It isn't an impossible situation. Some right wing libertarians advocate such situations. I did not know if you were one of them.

How is the "best use" decided solely by a private owner (or capitalist firm)? What gives someone the right to determine what is the best use for a piece of land? Say this piece of land is covered with forest. What gives someone the private owner the right to profit off it?

[LibertyDownUnder]

@agapeiron, I have no answer to it, as it is virtually an impossible situation that doesn't make any sense.

The more 'greedy' an investor is, the more likely he is to find the best use for the land. In the case you mentioned, it would be agriculture.

I think there should be a state to protect people's rights to their own safety and privacy and yes, property too.

[agapeiron]

@LibertyDownUnder After you have answered the question I posed to you previously-- regarding the Rhode Island-sized section of the earth and private ownership-- will you please tell me whether you believe there should be (1) no State at all, just private owners, or (2) there should be a State to protect the holdings of private owners, but no State taxation, etc.

Thanks.