The Calvinism Debate: Phil Fernandes vs Chris Comis - "Closing Statements" part 3 of 4

June 23rd, 2011 - The 3rd Annual Speaking Truth in Love Conference features Dr. Phil Fernandes and Mr. Chris Comis as they debate the topic: "Are the five points Calvinism biblical?" The debate was held and sponsored in large part by Grace Community Church in Auburn WA - www.graceinauburn.com and Speaking Truth in Love Conference - www.speakingtruthinloveconference.com

Dr. Fernandes is President of the Institute of Biblical Defense He is a Christian Apologist, Author and Pastor of Trinity Bible Fellowship

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Dr. Fernandes holds the following degrees: •Ph.D. in Philosophy of Religion degree from Greenwich University •Master of Arts in Religion degree from Liberty University •Bachelor of Theology Degree from Columbia Evangelical Seminary.

Chris Comis is a graduate of the University of Washington where he received a B.A. in Philosophy and Criminal Justice (1997) and is in the process of finishing his M.Th. at Reformed Theological Seminary in Orlando, FL.

Graduated from Greyfriars' Ministerial Hall (2011)
He received his Pastoral Training, at Greyfriars' Ministerial Hall, Christ Church, Moscow, ID (2003-06) he has completed all three years that are required for Greyfriars' Hall, along with all of the required readings and writings. You can read his pastoral position papers, here: www.christkirk.com/greyfriars

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[CBALLEN]

Man couldn't they have found a more knowledgeable Calvinist to represent the truth? When any Arminian complains because there are no works that they can do to save themselves,this clearly demonstrates that Arminianism is a works based belief system.The Bible tells us to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and we will be saved,that's what we can do,but only God's sheep will do this.

[DougCameraMan]

In the gospel of John Jesus is very clear about why some believe and others don't. He tells a group of Jews mocking him that they cannot believe him because they are not his sheep. He doesn't say they are not his sheep because they don't believe; he says they don't believe because they are not his sheep. And as many as were ordained to eternal life believed! - Acts 13:48. Ordained = chosen by God.

[LampPlaceThing]

Calvinist guy is talking too much about "covenantal this, covenantal that....

32:00- Someone help me understand this: "covenantal corporate realities"

[atdcross1]

Q&A re: Rom 9 question: Chris answers, "Amen, Paul's a Calvinist." In other words, he doesn't know how to give, at least, a simple exegesis of it. That is Calvinist's biggest problem. They need to elongate their answers in order make some sense and even then, at the end, it does not make sense.

[atdcross1]

I think both of them sputtered on the Q&A re: divine foreknowledge. The moderator posed a good question re: God being informed. It seemed like Fernandez didn't quite understand it and Chris denied it.

[atdcross1]

Great question on 2 Cor 4:4. Chicken and egg...is Chris real? He cannot believe it is because God decreed him to not believe; nothing "correlative" between God and man about it.

[atdcross1]

Two roles of the Holy Spirit?  Where is this notion in the Bible? (I don't think Chris even knows what he means by the phrase "covenantal reality"). No, he's not answering the question on the Holy Spirit. Why bring someone to a greater sense of guilt if He going to send them to hell (except to make the flames hotter for him?).

[atdcross1]

Chris sounds like James White and just as self-contradictory. His first response as he was seated was really wierd...from my perspective, his "tone" was condenscending. And he offered nothing in defense of Calvinism.