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Uploaded by on Jun 15, 2008

The opinions expressed in this video are those of the author of events occurring between 1988-2000 and do not reflect the views or opinions of Dallas Christian College its management, faculty, staff, students and/or administration. Dallas Christian College does not guarantee or assume any legal liability for the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information or product represented in this video.

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  • There have been issues in the past within the ICOC however, if you do your research (which he obviously has not done completely), you will find that there have been a lot of changes and many of the issues have been resolved. As far as us not going to christian colleges we have more than one member going to seminary school See for yourself what it is all about.

  • AGAIN, the events described occurred between 1989-2000! Nuff said!

  • WOW! This is the first time I haven't been pointed to the Bible to search for Truth!

  • We are just people that love God trying to show God's love to others. And I really feel that if you wanted to help people get to God, you would take the energy and time that you took to make this video and dig up information about our church and use that time to really go out and spread God's word.

    Sorry for the long post, but I felt like God really called me to speak about this. I pray that you all will let God guide you through his word in how to live a life for him. Timothy 3:16 - 17

  • Cammi, PLEASE understand that this is from the period between 1988-2000! And, unfortunately, with the split and all, there is no one reliable to whom I can turn to determine if real changes in the heart have been made within the ICOC. Until the entire organization REALLY repents of their judgmentalism and teaching of false doctrine, then I have to warn others of their dangers.

  • This church does not claim to be the only church out there where you can be saved. In fact there was a man in my bible talk that after he studied the bible with one of the brothers in the church, the brother realized that he already knew about God and had been baptized knowing fully what he was doing. Thus, he was not re- baptized. There is verse in Ephesians 4:4 that says there is one Lord, one faith, and one baptism.

  • Cammi, unfortunately, the ICOC (or least, many of them, after the split) are STILL claiming that, not only are they the "one true church" but that those that are non-members are not true "disciples". Cammi, they're either not going to readily admit that or you haven't asked them directly! Sorry :-(

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  • I was in it for 3 years. I was caught at a very vulnerable time, and I always had a passion for Christ. I always was the "worldly sister" because I wouldn't conform completely to their rules. I left and went dove deep into drugs,sex, and just a bunch of junk before God called me back to Him. He used someone I worked with to speak to my heart and I didn't realize how far I had gone from Him. But I just praise His Holy Name that I now have FREEDOM in Christ!

  • Thanks for sharing.I'm a member of the Deerfield Beach, COC.I obeyed the gospel 10 years ago.5 years prior,I encountered the ICOC first stage of dicipleship and didn't respond to the gospel. I must admit tha I lost sleep from those studies. The thing that got me was that they wouldnt baptise me becuase I wasnt cut to the heart (they want to see me cry). I was ready to surrender all and follow hook line and sinker. Never found the study group again.

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  • @"Those who are hurt/angry" I am from ICOC and I am truly sorry for the hurt that ICOC has caused. I know that we have been judgmental and I'm really sorry for that. It is wrong to "LORD IT OVER THEM" that is not God's will. I am really sorry for that. If you still think were aweful then pray for us, and we will pray for you also. I hope one day we will meet in peace because of the saving power of Jesus Christ, may the peace of God dwell in your hearts.

  • @mshannahpatricia Amen! I agree. I am a campus student also, and I started in the church as a teen. Ever since I got to church I saw that God was here. I have gone downtown and served the poor with my friends and I have met other people who follow Christ. I love meeting people from other churches who are spiritual and love God. It is so refreshing to see other lights in the darkness. I am sorry for all the hurts of ppl who are commenting, and that they were sinned against by us

  • @CityonehHill Amen.

  • @jkirton1964

    It's not up to you to determine if someones heart has changed. You can ask them. Who are you to judge. Teaching out of the NIV, how is that false doctrine. I will continue to pray for you.

  • @jkirton1964

    I really feel sorry for you. Listening to you really is sad. I just heard you say someone you knew came to the church and then they were gone, never heard of. Something like that, where did they go? You are misleading Gods children and you will deal with it in the end. We all will be held accountable for what we do. I will pray for you. You make it sound like we can't think for ourselves, buddy you are not in touch with reality.

  • @linklessamazon crooks i tell ya

  • wow reading all this is soo hurtfull

    do you really think that were so awefull, if you really think were all pharasees then why don't you pull us aside in love and show us our fault so we can change, we want to change, we want to be like Christ through and through, at least I know I do, even though I AM A SINNER I DO fall short, I AM NOT perfect, but I'm trying, and instead of just leaving you could really stay and help with the problems, but I know you feel pushed so I won't push u more.

  • @jkirton1964 Correct. Any ICC member's admission that it's possible for someone outside of the church to be saved is just their way of trying to look reasonable. BOTTOM LINE: ICC member = saved. ALL OTHERS = HELL. Period.

  • @mshannahpatricia Continue to give your life to Jesus, grow closer to Him and lean completely on Him. He will lead you out. That church is not a true church of Jesus Christ, it's about numbers and getting more members to pay "tithes"....I believe in paying tithes, but this church does not use it properly, the money goes to the leaders and the members end up struggling. Get out while you can, and just follow Jesus Christ and His Word in the Bible.

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