Crazy Air Traffic Control Clearance

This would have to be the most crazy ATC clearance ever issued.
Working in China can be very challenging especially in the area of aviation training. This is an area that is far from developed in china.The ATC have no experience with small planes and there ability to give effective ATC clearances is non existant. The Air Force has ABSOLUTEcontrol over ALL airspace below 18,000ft. Even domestic airliners that want to take off need to be authorized by the Air Force.
On this flight we were ORDERED to descend to 300ft and circle over the airport because an air force plane was going to fly over the airport at 1500ft.The only problem is that the airport itself was 220ft above sea level which meant we were only 80ft above the ground. Trees, cranes and the control tower were higher than us. At one point we needed to climb because we were lower than the trees. This is how crazy the situation is in china. Some ATC just dont have a clue!

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[yonkers555]

may i ask where this is?

[Baldric990]

@yonkers555

Linyi Airport, Shandong Province China.

[booshels]

The air force does not control all airspace below 18000

[Baldric990]

@booshels

The Air Force DO control all airspace up to 18,000ft. I also did ATC in China. It is the air force that authorise the start and takeoff clearances for all domestic flights. The information is relayed to the domestic control tower who then gives the clearance to the pilot of the domestic aircraft. There is no uncontrolled airspace in China.

[johnsmithfsx]

Pilot: This is madness!

ATC: This - is - CHI-NA!

[Baldric990]

@stealhty1

That is probably the smartest comment ANYONE has made on this video.

I do avoid China now and recommend to EVERYONE to avoid working as an instructor in China. To really understand how bad it can actually get you need to see it first hand.

I am now flying in Papua New Guinea. Such a good feeling to be out of China.

[kidf22]

@tmeeus to my knowledge, general aviation in China has practically no rights. I heard of a gentleman in China who tried or did fly around the world in his airplane and when he landed back in China, he was arrested because he landed at the airport without informing the Chinese government ahead of time that he was going to land at that airport. If he hadn't followed the ATC clearance he probably would've been arrested or deported. I wouldn't take any chances in a place like China.

[atpchase]

What were you doing?????

[markuslebt]

welcome to china. lol.i´ll take the lo-mein with extra rice, much curry and some spring rolls... sayonara...

[dcs002]

Wait, who's camera is your student using? I think I get it now. You got this crazy, incompetent clearance to do something unsafe, and instead of maintaining safe control of your plane and considering safer alternatives you got out your camera, handed it to your student, and told him to start filming while you, the PIC, performed an unsafe maneuver (which you were nonetheless cleared to do), just so you could get it on tape and show everyone how incompetent Chinese ATC can be. Am I right?

[dcs002]

At what time did you become aware of this altitude restriction, and why didn't you go hold at a safe altitude somewhere else until the air force plane passed? (Did you request clearance to do that?) You sound like your emotions were really worked up, and that's never safe. You bitched through your entire pattern (not exactly operational conversation). How does all that ranting serve your student? Not a great example of keeping cool and flying the plane carefully under critical conditions.

[vaestanfors]

@mancuj1 pretty simple really, if the pilot of the bug smasher doesnt get out of the way of a communist fighter jet he'll get shot down so if you have no instruments you go as low as you can and bitch about it when you get on the ground :)

[vaestanfors]

When in China do as Chinese do or get choppy choppy.

[stevey2020]

@PhrynosomaTexas yeah I would have thought AGL also, given that he would have been issued a QNH reading by ATC.. or at least should have been!haha

[mvaldman2001]

@kewkabe Hahahaha... ok, good point! Keep practicing the Narco-smuggler-type traffic patterns... ;)

[PhrynosomaTexas]

When they told you 300ft, I'm sure they meant AGL and not MSL, but that's still stupid if they meant AGL because we don't go by that when flying. Also, is this a 182 turbo? You seem to get round pretty fast.