@cdawg4391 Yes, I find the Awd drive to be awesome. I can even tell a difference in the rain, let alone snow and other slick conditions. Rwd cars that I owned in the past...you have to be gentle with the throttle, otherwise your rear wants to get ahead of your front. Fwd...the opposite. They plow, and spin the tires when taking off at a red light. Awd...handles like it's drive pavement. You can feel the awd at work. Now I want one with traction control and CVT. lol
@yngvaigilbsteen Hey awesome. it's a pretty advanced system to be able to determine /shift traction from left to right by its own determination (and not by traction/lack of traction like an open diff.). Thanks for the response. Yours doesn't have it but do you still find the awd to be good?
@cdawg4391 In some instances, VDC hurts you. Sometimes you need wheel spin and momentum....which is why they give you a little button on the dash to turn it off. My 2008 subaru doesn't have it. I wish it did. Essentially, I only have half of their current awd system. Awd controls torque split from front to rear, VDC/Traction control, controls torque split left to right. Between the two systems you have a pretty complete package. Subaru seems proud to advertise their VDC as integrated.
@cdawg4391 According to the research I've done, VDC/traction control would produce the same result as a locking...or at least a LSD. Basically, to maintain traction, the car's braking system clamps down on the wheel(s) that is spinning, thereby inducing a load on the spinning wheel and allowing power to transfer to the wheels that aren't getting power at all. This helps the diagonal spin issue. Looks like this car didn't have it on. In some instances it hurts you..
@yngvaigilbsteen Thank you. Itt would be nice to see it able to power all fours (or at least the wheel with the most traction) after freely spinning for a couple of seconds. I recognize that this is a not a dedicated off road vehicle - that said, the 4wd does seem to be pretty good - esp. since the center "differential" is actually gear-driven (instead of chain-driven) which means it has longevity and durability.
@cdawg4391 Did some more research. I don't know if he has vdc on in this situation, or not (doesn't sound like it), but vdc would probably actually help here. Would act somewhat like a locking diff. Different principal though.
@yngvaigilbsteen do you know how it works on the subaru? I've also been trying to see if the subaru awd system can throw power to opposite wheels in a diagonal situation.....it seems as if the best it can do in that situation is behave like a part-time 4wd with open diffs front and rear (like many jeeps).
@yngvaigilbsteen Trac. control and a CVT - trade up to an Outback! lol well I do know what you mean with rwd.
cdawg4391 3 months ago
@cdawg4391 Yes, I find the Awd drive to be awesome. I can even tell a difference in the rain, let alone snow and other slick conditions. Rwd cars that I owned in the past...you have to be gentle with the throttle, otherwise your rear wants to get ahead of your front. Fwd...the opposite. They plow, and spin the tires when taking off at a red light. Awd...handles like it's drive pavement. You can feel the awd at work. Now I want one with traction control and CVT. lol
yngvaigilbsteen 3 months ago
@etherialcruiser I wonder if a Jeep Patriot with Freedom Drive II would do any good here.
cdawg4391 3 months ago
@yngvaigilbsteen Hey awesome. it's a pretty advanced system to be able to determine /shift traction from left to right by its own determination (and not by traction/lack of traction like an open diff.). Thanks for the response. Yours doesn't have it but do you still find the awd to be good?
cdawg4391 3 months ago
@cdawg4391 In some instances, VDC hurts you. Sometimes you need wheel spin and momentum....which is why they give you a little button on the dash to turn it off. My 2008 subaru doesn't have it. I wish it did. Essentially, I only have half of their current awd system. Awd controls torque split from front to rear, VDC/Traction control, controls torque split left to right. Between the two systems you have a pretty complete package. Subaru seems proud to advertise their VDC as integrated.
yngvaigilbsteen 3 months ago
@cdawg4391 According to the research I've done, VDC/traction control would produce the same result as a locking...or at least a LSD. Basically, to maintain traction, the car's braking system clamps down on the wheel(s) that is spinning, thereby inducing a load on the spinning wheel and allowing power to transfer to the wheels that aren't getting power at all. This helps the diagonal spin issue. Looks like this car didn't have it on. In some instances it hurts you..
yngvaigilbsteen 3 months ago
@yngvaigilbsteen Thank you. Itt would be nice to see it able to power all fours (or at least the wheel with the most traction) after freely spinning for a couple of seconds. I recognize that this is a not a dedicated off road vehicle - that said, the 4wd does seem to be pretty good - esp. since the center "differential" is actually gear-driven (instead of chain-driven) which means it has longevity and durability.
cdawg4391 3 months ago
@cdawg4391 Did some more research. I don't know if he has vdc on in this situation, or not (doesn't sound like it), but vdc would probably actually help here. Would act somewhat like a locking diff. Different principal though.
yngvaigilbsteen 3 months ago
@yngvaigilbsteen do you know how it works on the subaru? I've also been trying to see if the subaru awd system can throw power to opposite wheels in a diagonal situation.....it seems as if the best it can do in that situation is behave like a part-time 4wd with open diffs front and rear (like many jeeps).
cdawg4391 3 months ago
@yngvaigilbsteen Will traction control allow for the locking of all four wheels so that they spin in unison when under power (like a diff. lock)?
cdawg4391 3 months ago