Re: Greenhouse Gases

Video responded to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItP7r2p--gA

A rebuttal to claims by Ferenc Miskolczi: http://www.realclimate.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ferenc_Miskolczi

I find the simultaneously combative yet curiously shy attitude of 'UTubekookdetector amusing. He seems to have a peculiar attitude to expression of opinions contrary to his own, namely that they are uniformly attention seeking. How endearing.

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[judomagyar]

taxing the CO2 emissions is like prescribing antibiotics for a wart.

The effect of CO2 concentration on climate is negligible. Galactic radiation seeds cloud formation; amount cloud cover determines amount energy received to surface.

How much of galactic radiation gets close to earth is determined by the the Heliosphere.

How "thick" the heliosphere is determined by the sun's magnetic activity..

See Svensmark, Shaviv.

[JmkLcAeJsm]

I've literally never heard such a lot of utter bollocks. 'Galactic radiation'?? What the heck sort of engineer are you?

[judomagyar]

@JmkLcAeJsm

VOLUME 81, PHYSICAL REVIEW LETTERS 30 NOVEMBER 1998

During the last solar cycle Earths cloud cover underwent a modulation more closely in phase with the galactic cosmic ray flux than with other solar activity parameters. Further it is found that Earths temperature follows more closely decade variations in galactic cosmic ray flux and solar cycle length, than other solar activity parameters. The main conclusion is that the average state of the heliosphere affects Earths climate.

[JmkLcAeJsm]

Bit of a red herring there, and I'm unable to find many supporting articles. They may well be right, but their main contention is sensible enough and does not contradict the anthropogenic climate change hypothesis.

It makes good sense that ionising radiation should seed clouds, and clouds affect temperature, so the two variables they've identified would have strong effects.

I apologise for jumping the gun, 'galactic radiation' sounded like the kind of babble often used by anti-science folks.

[Maxdwolf]

@JmkLcAeJsm There are some decent rebuttals to the cosmic ray hypothesis on Real Climate

[judomagyar]

@JmkLcAeJsm

"What the heck sort of engineer are you? "

I studied microchip manufacturing.

[JmkLcAeJsm]

They shouldn't, they should read the abstract.

[judomagyar]

Robert Muir-Wood was not very happy about Stern misusing his analysis.

Why should everyone read all 700 pages?

I'd like to see the possible effect on world economy of more and more scarce fossil fuels. I think, the Iraq war is a precursor of what is coming.

Also, a study that investigates what happens if we are entering a cooling period? Climate refugees from Canada, Scandinavia, etc...

[JmkLcAeJsm]

An engineer ought to know a bit of physics, so you know what photon absorbtion is, and you know it ain't 'politically charged psychobabble'.

I think we should too, which is why I don't advocate daft schemes like massive public investment in so called 'green energy'.

I advocate for a $70 per tonne carbon tax to replace VAT and sales taxes.

[judomagyar]

@JmkLcAeJsm

Please, forgive me for my partiality to measurements instead of models and politically charged psychobabble. I am just a technocrat engineer who writes software that actually solve real life problems.

I think, we should concentrate on problems that we can do something about. Explaining the importance of the Hubbert curve and the coming Post Peak Oil world economy to the general public. That will happen whatever the CO2 concentration or the global temperature will be.