StarTrek's Monologue
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What?
You still don't have any business her! What the hell are you talking about?
You ride the "short bus" to school, don't you?
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I truly do hope that one day, we can move past our bullshit nature. That one day, we'll realize what is truly important. That one day, we too, will get to boldly go where no man has gone before.
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@trekgeek1 Tell that to the atheists (aside you) who meet me. :-P
Eh... Maybe they are not true atheists. Either way, I've had to block people who spammed me for MONTHS trying to get me to not believe. (I didn't spam *them*, they just dogged me)
Roddenberry was still raised Baptist, and the quotes are still empty until you can provehe said those things.
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Atheism is not hatred of God. Atheism is a disbelief in God. You can't hate what you don't believe in. I can't hate the Easter bunny. I don't think we should turn this video into a religious debate, but I think your lack of understanding of what an atheist even is may be the reason we're not seeing eye to eye on this. We don't even have an agreed upon set of terms. Non Christians who believe in God are theists. Agnosticism deals with the ability to posses knowledge.
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@trekgeek1 When did he say those things? I do know that he was raised as a baptist, and that he objected to Star Trek V. (in which God was shot dead by a Klingon) Atheisim (hatred of God) is not Agnosticisim (Every non-Christian who is not an Atheist is an Agnostic)
Also, Wikipedia cannot be a good source for anything: they spent more time quoting other people who worked on Star Trek, not Gene, and I still do not know where the seemingly "polite atheist" statements come from.
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@Idazmi7 I think the absolute best case you could hope to make is that he was open minded about the universe. This is the spirit of Star Trek;exploration. I don't think he admired any set of theistic doctrines.
"I have always been reasonably leery of religion because there are so many edicts in religion, 'thou shalt not,' or 'thou shalt.' I wanted my world of the future to be clear of that."-Gene
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Let that be your last battlefield- not by Gene.
Bread and Circuses-Okay.
The Cage-by Gene, but pro Christian ?
"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes." -Gene
"Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry objected to the characters' search for God in general, and more particularly, the idea of a God as portrayed by Western religion." -Wikipedia (Star Trek V)
Gene was an Agnostic/Atheist.
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@trekgeek1 Tos episodes:
Let that be your last battlefield - by Gene R
Bread and Circuses - By Gene R
The Cage - By Gene R
Actually watch HIS episodes, and forgets athiests trying to nullify it with Rick Berman influence
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Where did you see loads of pro-Christianity in Star Trek? They showed a wedding or two that appeared to be Christian, but I can think of many instances when Star Trek was directly critical of religion in general. I presume that would include Christianity. From what I know, Roddenberry wasn't a fan of religion and I don't think his artistic creation would show otherwise.
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@SunTrapped Actually, Roddenberry wrote in The Making of Star Trek that Star Trek was always about a positive future made seemingly believeable, plus *shades* of Horatio Hornblower and Wagon Train. Also, Star Trek (when under Roddenberry) always made opinionated statements: Anti-communisim, pro-socialisim (only if thoughfully employed), and loads of pro-Christianity.
Star Trek: Enterprise was ALREADY basically a western, it just lacked the *believeable* part, especially season 1.
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@jack1701e Original as in NX-01 or as in NCC-1701? Both are original in different contexts.
It is indeed a truly memorable and awesome scene, though I don't really agree with the word "intro". It was more like an outro :)
EvilDevil1218 2 years ago 12
Ok Ok...I finally changed the title of the video..
cldstrife 2 years ago