There is more than one operational Panther tank in the world. They have one in Bovington and one in Koblenz, so there are at least two. Iam pretty sure there are even more, but maybe in 2008 (date the video was posted) there only was one, who knows.
@CrniWuk had armor (1943 models had 120mm at 72 deg to the horizontal so thats about 126mm) at 100-120mm for the 1944m JS-2's at 60 deg so thats either 200mm to the vertical if using Cosine calculations but if to the horizontal that would be about 138.5mm frontal armor using Sine calculations - which at 2000 yards or so the JS-2 could withstand a strike from a Tiger I's gun as shown in Targu Frumos
@CrniWuk Afterall in the end the JS-series tanks proved slightly lighter, fast, better armed (well thats debatable as the 107.6mm gun would have packed a punch but the 122mm gun's HE work is undeniable for a tank gun in WWII) and most importantly superior armor layout (it was said Konin and Grabin both used simple cast technology but at the same time the engineering of the turret meant it was lighter, simpler yet more compact than the KV-turrets) - and the JS-2 overall had armor
@CrniWuk In any case though the JS-1 and JS-2 (from the 1943 model which did rather badly at Targu Frumos to the 1944m/1945 mode3ls) were the successors to the KV-tanks - did you know the JS-2 tank originally was proposed to have a T-shaped like muzzle brake but apparently it blew up and nearly killed Kliment Voroshilova when he was inspecting it! And the Soviet design factory wanted to upgrade the JS-2's armor up to 130mm but due to weight issues they didn't do so...
@CrniWuk It was stated the Russians didn't specify models of the KV-1 tanks in general; these only occured in study documents and books after the war. "These designations however are not strict and describe leading changes, while other changes might be adapted earlier or later in specific production batches." (via wiki - not sure if its true or not) and what they did do though was implement all these wild KV-projects - some too heavy, some not accepted and some that lead to the JS tanks...
@CrniWuk O.O - speaking of the KV-3 have you heard about its armament? The proposed ZiS 6 107mm gun had developmental origins to the M60 107mm gun; No. 92 Plant also worked on a 107 mm gun. A ZiS-24 prototype with 73.5 caliber barrel (so if you do the maths thats about 7.8645 metres LONG - VERY POWERFUL); but the gun was also very heavy and expensive - and it was cancelled more or less aroudn the time of Barbarrossa...
panther,tiger best tank of IIWW!!
albertoace1 3 weeks ago
There is more than one operational Panther tank in the world. They have one in Bovington and one in Koblenz, so there are at least two. Iam pretty sure there are even more, but maybe in 2008 (date the video was posted) there only was one, who knows.
Mertensify 3 weeks ago
actually it was, after some fixes following the first testings in the batlle of Kursk, the best balanced medium Tank of ww2
ThugCologne 1 month ago
@CrniWuk
In a way, the chassis of it was equipped with the turret from a KV-1 and sent to a russian tank formation were it was used as the commanders vehicle.
I'll see if I can find the info about it.
Dreachon 1 month ago
@CrniWuk had armor (1943 models had 120mm at 72 deg to the horizontal so thats about 126mm) at 100-120mm for the 1944m JS-2's at 60 deg so thats either 200mm to the vertical if using Cosine calculations but if to the horizontal that would be about 138.5mm frontal armor using Sine calculations - which at 2000 yards or so the JS-2 could withstand a strike from a Tiger I's gun as shown in Targu Frumos
HeirofGojira91 1 month ago
@CrniWuk Afterall in the end the JS-series tanks proved slightly lighter, fast, better armed (well thats debatable as the 107.6mm gun would have packed a punch but the 122mm gun's HE work is undeniable for a tank gun in WWII) and most importantly superior armor layout (it was said Konin and Grabin both used simple cast technology but at the same time the engineering of the turret meant it was lighter, simpler yet more compact than the KV-turrets) - and the JS-2 overall had armor
HeirofGojira91 1 month ago
@CrniWuk In any case though the JS-1 and JS-2 (from the 1943 model which did rather badly at Targu Frumos to the 1944m/1945 mode3ls) were the successors to the KV-tanks - did you know the JS-2 tank originally was proposed to have a T-shaped like muzzle brake but apparently it blew up and nearly killed Kliment Voroshilova when he was inspecting it! And the Soviet design factory wanted to upgrade the JS-2's armor up to 130mm but due to weight issues they didn't do so...
HeirofGojira91 1 month ago
@CrniWuk It was stated the Russians didn't specify models of the KV-1 tanks in general; these only occured in study documents and books after the war. "These designations however are not strict and describe leading changes, while other changes might be adapted earlier or later in specific production batches." (via wiki - not sure if its true or not) and what they did do though was implement all these wild KV-projects - some too heavy, some not accepted and some that lead to the JS tanks...
HeirofGojira91 1 month ago
@CrniWuk O.O - speaking of the KV-3 have you heard about its armament? The proposed ZiS 6 107mm gun had developmental origins to the M60 107mm gun; No. 92 Plant also worked on a 107 mm gun. A ZiS-24 prototype with 73.5 caliber barrel (so if you do the maths thats about 7.8645 metres LONG - VERY POWERFUL); but the gun was also very heavy and expensive - and it was cancelled more or less aroudn the time of Barbarrossa...
HeirofGojira91 1 month ago
@HeirofGojira91
there are rumors that the KV3 prototype saw action around Leningrad where it was designed before the siege. If it is true ? Who knows ...
CrniWuk 1 month ago