Any Answers? 5th May 2007

Extract from BBC's Any Answers on the thorny subject of state-sponsored terrorism

(photos from www.dublinmonaghanbombings.org)

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[jonoessex]

@mst3k4evur The dublin-monaghan bombs were carried out by loyalists. To try and make anti-british propaganda out of it does not do any good to the victims.

[jonoessex]

@mst3k4evur If you're going to accuse the brits at a high level of involvement you have to have very strong proof. You do not have any.

[mst3k4evur]

@jonoessex

Don't misunderstand, I don't think this went all the way to Downing Street but the ease with which loyalists operated and the number of soldiers and cops involved indicates that someone high up in the military or government had to be helping them.

[mst3k4evur]

@jonoessex

The Loyalists had attacked Dublin before. In 1972 they exploded car bombs in the city as the Irish Parliament debated harsh measures against the IRA. The idea was to convince the government it was the IRA, which is what happened and the measures passed. This suited the Brits and later that year the Irish imprisoned the Provo leader as well. The loyalists had carried out false flag attacks even earlier, look at the UPV bombs in 1969. It all served British and Unionist hard liners.

[jonoessex]

@mst3k4evur The miami showband killings again are the M.O of loyalists ie kill some catholics. I don't think the brits made use of loyalists. All they did was help the IRA because the IRA could claim that it was protecting catholics from loyalists

[jonoessex]

@mst3k4evur The loyalists attacked dublin to show those in the south what it was like to experience terrorism. The british government obviously wanted sunningdale to work. Dublin-monaghan was the mo of the loyalists. The british army did not target civilians.

[mst3k4evur]

@jonoessex

The 'Glannane gang' was a nickname given to the Mid Ulster Brigade of the UVF. Whether they should be treated with suspicion like all spooks and activists, they were attacked and discredited by the British government and that tells me there must be at least some truth to what they say.

Not only was the evidence ignored, eye witness and fingerprint evidence in 36 murders (between the band and carbombings) was ignored by the RUC for nearly two decades before he died of lung cancer.

[mst3k4evur]

@jonoessex

The plan on the part of the UVF was to plant a bomb in the band's van. It would have exploded across the border, killing the band and discrediting people from the Republic.

Brian Nelson ended up in prison after he pleaded guilty to crimes on behalf of the UDA. I don't pretend that the Brits all supported the loyalists, but part of the government and military clearly made use of them when it was convenient and protected them from prosecution.

[mst3k4evur]

@jonoessex

It makes perfect sense within the context of the Loyalist workers strike. The were striking in protest of a British government that was willing to work with Dublin. A bombing in Dublin could discourage the Republic from interfering in the North, something both the Loyalists and hard-liners in the military would have wanted.

[jonoessex]

@mst3k4evur I wouldn't deny that some members of the UDR would have been involved with loyalists. The same goes for some members of the RUC. However hundreds of loyalists were imprisoned as a result of the BA and RUC. The dublin and monaghan bombs served no purpose for the British. There is no reason for them to have colluded at any substantial level in something so wicked!