Happy Liberal Fascism -- Public-Private Partnership

New Deal Liberalism & other horrors, discussed by Jonah Goldberg, author of "Liberal Fascism" on a Glenn Beck interview, Feb 08.

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[TylerNull]

@Brucev7

Nothing was forgotten. The Fed's numbers are adjusted for inflation. That's the "Real" in "Real Disposable Income". Go to their website to review the data.

[Brucev7]

@TylerNull You forgot. Money has severely depreciated from 1947. $1,096 in today's value is worth $11, 168.

The Dollar was worth over ten times as much then.

[TylerNull]

You're missing the point.

In the end, "the state" sponsors and subsidizes only with money they TAKE from those who earn; from those who create; from businesses that provide all the goods and services that socialists enjoy. Thus, your contrivances are specious.

The reason we know that Socialists are keenly aware of the flaw in their political theology is that they keep trying to smear their policy stink (subsidy, welfare, funded, etc) on others by torturing the use of those words.

[TylerNull]

"working families"

Again, by any metric -- real metrics that economists use -- Americans prospered under Reagan. Job opportunities and household wealth skyrocketed, as I referenced above.

As for the socialist's beloved class-warfare metric of "income equality", let's have another look at rich-to-poor ratios:

1 penny to 1 penny -- Equality !!!

1 million to 1 billion -- Inequality !!!

Thus, your spite-based economics are revealed for what they are -- despicable.

[TylerNull]

Not only is there no such information at their web site, but the Census has no authority nor charter to collect information on anyone's income. Nor do they collect that information from people in their census data collections.

They never ask me about my income. They merely count the number of people per household.

Regardless, if there WERE negative income growth, what would be your point?

As for your other topic, I have no idea what point you're attempting there either.

[TylerNull]

"If we go by ..." the bogus numbers generated by your labor price-fixing cartel, then we will all become Detroit. You have yet to point to ANY metric, ANY measure from ANY valid source. My numbers come from the Federal Reserve Bank.

You're welcome to pick another data set -- I don't own their web site.

As much as you whine over the metric that economists use, you offer nothing else but labor price-fixing theology.

As for your latest "benefit" discussion, payment for work done isn't subsidy.

[TylerNull]

Again, it's the economists choosing the metrics, not me. I merely posted it to demonstrate just how bogus were your labor price-fixing cartel numbers.

As for your mantra "state-subsidized capitalism", it's as nonsensical now as when I first exposed it as such.

How does the state "subsidize" anything? They TAKE the money from those who EARN it, and redistribute it. In the end -- in aggregate -- it ALL comes from the earners.

Thus, your mantra is specious.

[TylerNull]

"There's no such thing as..."

I'm willing to debunk your specious notions, but when you so overtly deny reality, that's a level of dementia I'm not willing to entertain.

If you find the income metric "interesting", then thank the Federal Reserve. (It's the one they track.) Evidently, economists don't share your notions thereof either.

[TylerNull]

Those bogus numbers come from the labor price-fixing cartel web site "Working Life". The US BLS offers no such data. USA Real Disposable Personal Income [$B] 1947 -- $1,096 1957 -- $1,619 1967 -- $2,445 1977 -- $3,479 1987 -- $4,855 1997 -- $6,201 Now -- $8,689 (Source: Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis) I have no idea what you're complaining about, but proselytizing for the proven failure of socialism in the year 2009 is just plain sad.

[TylerNull]

I already addressed the circular logic of your "state-subsidized capitalism" story. Reciting it doesn't make it any less specious.

As for the Democxrat mythology regarding the quality and pay of jobs, the Federal Reserve data dispels it. Pick a metric, any metric, from household wealth to disposable income, that Democrat myth fails.