Rick Warren - "A Man and a Man is a Fine Marriage"

Parody.
The following is real audio from Rick Warren, edited so that he makes much more sense.

"For 5000 years, every single culture has defined marriage as one guy having multiple wives, older guy marrying a child, and having a brother and sister be together and call that "marriage." Historically, marriage has been defined by every single culture as a man and every beautiful woman I see. Marriage is a man and multiple sexual partners. It's the natural thing to do. For five thousand years, it was the most natural way for relationships.

"Well, I disagree. Just because it's historical doesn't mean it's best for you or society.

"But what you have is, these people redefine marriage. Natural impulses toward the same sex have been defined by religion as sin. Christian churches opposed to same-sex marriages and equal rights have redefined marriage as a man and a woman. Now, this is not a Christian issue. That is the redefinition of a 5000-year definition of marriage. That redefinition is quite, uh, bandied around. People say, "Well, my marriage is perfectly acceptable. Your marriages are hideous and evil."

"That's just not true. Just because it's man and a woman doesn't mean it's best for you or society. Just because it's the same sex, doesn't mean it's a sin. This is not a Christian issue. A man and a man is a fine marriage. A woman and a woman is a fine marriage. That's part of maturity. I think it's part of character.

"Support full equal rights for everybody in America."

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[MsVirtuousWarrior]

Your video is CHOPPED and SCREWED....This gentleman didn't say this AT ALL!

[watdeshit]

No not at all, how are people to engage and challenge them self if they do not assert their right to question and make statements? Everyone has their opinion, whether it is wise to consider it different. I am glad you have your opinion, I am semi for gay marriages.

[Lastonthecreek]

I'm sorry for making a close minded statement. I realize that this issue is a difficult one to address, and I for one am probably not the right person to be asking haha. I probably should have just not made the commetn

[watdeshit]

@Lastonthecreek to the same extent having gay marriages condoned legally pushes the gay and lesbian's rights onto the Christians at an institutional level. So begins the debate of how far and to what extent is the church separated from government? Should it be? Just some food for thoughts. Be open minded here, its a difficult issue to address. Who do we offend? :)

[MrJSockolov]

do two adults consenting to buy a dog wrong?

[Lastonthecreek]

I don't get why people are against gay marriage. If they feel that its against their religion, then they won't get married. But what gives them the right to push their beliefs on other people?

[SeenAndNotSeen]

To further point out the baffling inanity of this analogy, the fact that the two bank robbers consented is, in fact, more moral than if they hadn't consented.

If one person forced another to aid in a bank robbery, that is more immoral than if the two had consented. In either case, the fact that a bank is being robbed of money makes the act immoral, but the use of coercion by one robber over another adds an extra element of immorality.

Your analogy utterly fails on every level. Congratulations.

[SeenAndNotSeen]

It doesn't matter in either case if the customer and the banker are the same gender or opposite genders. The fact that there is a victim makes robbery morally wrong, whereas consent makes a transaction morally acceptable.

Similarly, if two adult, mentally competent people agree to any sort of contract or relationship, then it is morally permissible. If one person rapes another person (one party violates another and acts against their will), then that is morally wrong. The genders don't matter.

[SeenAndNotSeen]

That example is perhaps the most inane, idiotic argument against homosexuality that I have ever heard. I don't know YOUR background, but I personally see no similarities between marriage and bank robbery.

A better analogy is this: if a bank customer asks to withdraw money from his/her account, and the banker willingly hands over the money, that is obviously morally permissible. If, instead, the customer threatens to kill the banker unless they hand over others' money, that is morally wrong.