Part 2 - Hijrah - Haitham Al-Haddad
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I like that the 2 people debating here are doing it like gentlemen.
@ahyahyahy - May Allah keep you steadfast in the deen and strengthen your Iman.
@tigerbaiter - May Allah guide you to the Sirat Al Mustaqeem.
@fbreza - Jazakum Allah Khairan.
fahdaw 9 months ago
@tigerbaiter1 The rise in social problems in 'muslim countries' is as a result of further embracing western materialism and generally western ideals, and its self-evident in society just as its self evident here in the west how corrupted and falling apart society is on every moral, social, ethical and economic level.
Whether it be things like interest, debt, whether it be things like lewdness, rape, prostitution, whether itb e things like drugs, alcohol, depression etc. all these ills r present
ahyahyahy 1 year ago
@tigerbaiter1 God reveals who he is through the qur'an. We will not be in front of God until the day of judgment, but he watches overall of us.
And muslims countries 'rejected' islam by not practicing islam and embracing western post colonialism, nationalism, even racism, tribalism (which islam forbids) and what is the result? Secular dictatorships, tyrany, oppression, poverty, no jobs. That is the result of abandoning islam.
ahyahyahy 1 year ago
@tigerbaiter1 I did not become muslim to have an 'identity' or be a part of a communiy although being a part of the muslim ummah is very beatiful. The love and respect amongst believers. The reason I became Muslim is because I recognize Islam as the true religion of God and the only true monotheistic religion that has not been corrupted on the planet earth. I became muslim because I believe in God, only one God.
ahyahyahy 1 year ago
@tigerbaiter1 Sorry but that's ignorance. Muhammad (peace be upon him) didn't 'borrow' anything from anyone but received that which was revealed from God which affirms which was before. The qur'an is NOTHING like the bible and vice versa. If it were a 'copy' it would be riddled with the problems of the bible. It has none.
And I feel sorry for you for thinking that, obviously you are not muslim but Muhammad peace be upon him was indeed a prophet of God as 1.5 billion people attest to that today.
ahyahyahy 1 year ago
@ahyahyahy I say that because you have to know what you allowed yourself to have become part of, what you have subscribed to. I can understand your reasons for doing so - identity, community, etc. But you cannot really come to God this way, not in all the fullness that God reveals Himself to us. If you step back for a moment and look at the bigger picture you might see that - and you might start to see that Islam is being rejected in Muslim countries precisely because it is a flawed ideology.
tigerbaiter1 1 year ago
@ahyahyahy There is obviously a lot of truth in Islam - Mohammed was a smart guy, and knew he had to borrow a great deal from Christianity and Judaism in order to be credible. But whilst there is a lot of truth in Islam, and certainly many Muslims are good and pious people, Mohammed was not a prophet of God, he was a political and military leader, and Islam is fundamentally a political and tribal project.
tigerbaiter1 1 year ago
@tigerbaiter1 I am from God's earth, and I chose to be a Muslim to worship God. We do not have a choice when we are born, where we are born, how we are born, to whom we are born, whether we are born male or female but we do have a choice in being Muslim and submitting ourselves to God. People also have a choice to not worship God and to led themselves to idolatry, disbelief, etc...
Islam is submission to God, the same message that all prophets of God call towards. That there is only one God.
ahyahyahy 1 year ago
@tigerbaiter1 Of course, as unlike the bible the qur'an is as it was revealed 1400 years to Muhammad (peace be upon him) from God. It is to be read literally, it has no 'hidden meaning' except that it must be understood in context. God would not deceive or lie. Humans do that.
The bible is a series of books chosen by the church to be put into one book. Biblios which the word bible comes from is a greek word for book. Yet the word bible itself is not in the bible but it is in the qur'an.
ahyahyahy 1 year ago
Respond to this video... BTW where are you from?
tigerbaiter1 1 year ago