The Somme - From Defeat To Victory - Part 1

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The Somme - From Defeat To Victory. A BBC documentary from 2006.

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[RennaLyra31]

May I ask, did the British have machine guns too? Because they're never seen in the British trenches, only the Germans'. Did the British get them later or never have them or have them but they're just not shown? Thank you x

[zulfitareen]

@THthefirst

thank you very much for the inforamtion.

i was curious.

[THthefirst]

@zulfitareen No, this was before bullet proof material was invented, thin metal would have not stopped a lead bullet travelling at 300mph, and nor would it stop head or leg shots, or being blown to pieces by artillery. Heavier iron/steel vests were simply far too heavy, and made progress so slow that soldiers became a sitting target. Govts obviously did not want to suffer casualties because they obviously wanted to win the war - the losses were not deliberate.

[THthefirst]

@zulfitareen Is a war of self-defence (e.g. to prevent a foreign power taking your land, home, raping your women, killing your people) justified? Or in those circumstances should the other side just roll over and accept defeat?

[Pivoteer435]

@DaimyoNovagawa Admittedly, the starting of a war can usually be prevented, but if you don't fight the war then your country will just be conquered. If a country decides not to raise an army that doesn't mean the enemy won't...

[DaimyoNovagawa]

@zulfitareen i dont need a cool mind to stop war .all u need to do is dont fukkin fight the fukkin war u fukkin idiot!!!!!!!!! anyway to explain ur dumb ass how it is if faggots would quit joining the army there will be nobody there to fight the war u get it?DO YOU GET IT NOW?DID I MAKE MY SELF CLEAR ENOUGH? DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH GOOD BRAIN CELLS LEFT IN THERE TO UNDERSTAND THIS?NO ARMY = NO WAR !!! NO ARMY NO WAR NO ARMY NO WAR NO ARMY NO WAR NO ARMY NO WAR NO ARMY NO WAR ! ! ! ! ! !

[zulfitareen]

@1Dougy85

i totally agree with you.

man has suffered a lot through-out the history.

war is hell no matter whatever the cause, whether you fight for a right or wrong reason. i wish some cool minds had done something to stop this human tragedy. it is heart wrenching to see human lives being wasted like this.

[1Dougy85]

@zulfitareen Plates of iron to be used as a shield as the soldiers crawled forward was thought of and tried but it didn't work well enough to last. The human mind didn't work any differently back then as it does now, there was no shortage of ideas and tactics used.

[Coulterr]

@zulfitareen There were plenty of experiments but they were all very bulky and reduced mobility greatly. One of the problems at the Somme is that Haig had no confidence in the "Pals" Batalions (who were to advance in parade order) and was convinced that the preperatory barrage would so reduce the German positions thwey would simply walk across the battlefield. No so, the bnarrage was completely ineffective as the wrong ammunition was used, that German wire and positions were largely intact.

[zulfitareen]

@fp470

thank you for the information.