COSMOS: The Shores of the Cosmic Ocean (Part 5 - 6)

Carl Sagan's COSMOS: A Personal Voyage

Episode 1: "The Shores of the Cosmic Ocean"

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[cartmanSPP]

It was in the Christian Dark Ages that vast amounts of knowledge was lost... and I wonder sometimes if we are experiencing an Inquisition of our own right now...

Churches burning the Origin of Species, people killing doctors, ramming cars into clinics, crashing planes into buildings, denying modern medicine to an 11 year old girl, introducing fairytales into the classroom, and imposing Sharia Law, all in the name of their gods.

[KevServo]

If there is a God, and if he believes science to be evil, why did he give us the capacity to understand it?

[inconsp1cuous1515]

2000 years to rediscover that the Sun doesn't orbit the Earth?? ...Gee I wonder why.. The more he talks about the library, the more sad I get -- and the more I fucking hate religion..

[Canvasian]

@cartmanSPP actually if it weren't for islamic scholars preserving the works of the ancient greeks, and then Catholic Crusaders bringing those works to Europe, we would not have the works of say, Aristotle. Religion hinders progress and knowledge in a lot of ways, but it's not so black and white as to imply that religion is always a hinderance.

[camiblack1]

@TheTheking1935

Mostly because it wasn't dark to them and what we find of it isn't dark to us, in the knowledge sense.

It's a dark age because we know so little about what was going on between The Fall of Rome, an the Rise of Charlemagne. It's dark because we have very little clue what went on.

[camiblack1]

@cartmanSPP

Said vast amounts of knowledge having been destroyed by an accidental Roman fire at the beginning of Imperial Rome. Compounded the fall of the Western Empire, driving cities and villages that had once been connected by the Pax Romana, into a violent and utter darkness, at the end.

And this folks is why you should also pay attention in Humanities like History, otherwise you sound like someone with an ax to grind, rather than someone who looks for knowledge.

[325982668]

if i see another "quantum jumping" on these videos add my head will fucking explode. carl sagan must be spinning in his grave.

[gleehmee]

@sankoboy You analogy is just plain nonsense, sorry, WHAT?

To address the last point:

We know there were books/scrolls. We know the books contained 'something' even if it was just blank paper. We know in general libraries do not contain mainly "empty" books. Therefore it is safe to assume the books contained knowledge of some type. We know the books were lost. Therefore we know we lost some knowledge, or it is at least safe to assume so.

[sankoboy]

@gleehmee if i told you I invented a pencil and my design and all of its knowing is destroyed, then how would you tell me later that I invented this pencil if all of my doing was destroyed. If you had the ability to know my doing and design of the pencil then my invention was never lost...do you understand where im coming from? you can't know the unknown

[gleehmee]

@sankoboy We know roughly how much was stored. but we don't know fully what those books contained.

[sankoboy]

i dont get it. If the info was lost, how do we know so much about this disintegrated library and all of its scrolls and the info it had? If we knew the info it had in them, then it was never lost?

[Jtosar77]

"Showing that intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being...dead wrong." Brilliant!