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@riian1946 Its important to understand that the authors of the gospels were very familiar with the old testament which is why they portrayed Jesus the way they did. And other characteristics of horus include being baptized, tempted in the desert, healed the sick, walked on water, raised Asar (translates to Lazarus) from the dead, was crucified, and had 12 disciples, and all of this was written 1280 BC. Please dont take my word for it. Read about the book of the dead. its all there.
jbulletc 1 month ago
@jbulletc egyptianmyths. net/horus.htm An uncontroversial site with no axe to grind. Am I right in thinking that you believe that acceptance of the s/natural stories in the bible means acceptance of Christian belief in general?The signs were important but mostof them were compassion signs; trying 2 help othersin need. They also pointed to his identity as Messiah of the Jews The gospels chiefly address the Jews. All Jewry longed for the coming of Messiah but when he came he was rejected
riian1946 1 month ago
@riian1946 Once again i must resort that those four accounts have unknown authorship. And the Horus parallels along with a few others god are infact true. Christian took from Judaism which took from Zoroastrianism. I specifically looked them up before using them just to make sure. But for the sake of argument, ill go ahead and say that we do have authorship because even that wont confirm the supernatural stories in the bible.
jbulletc 1 month ago
@riian1946 Jesus wasn't born Dec 25th. Shepherds were out in the fields keeping watch over their flocks: in the middle of winter??? Horus not born of a virgin and had disciples but not 12. Jesus not baptised at 30. Horus deformed from the waist down and associated with rising of the sun but never resurrected as Jesus was. No originals of any first century writing of any sort survive. John'sgospel has a small part of a copy dated AD120+. AmazingwhenconsideringthelackofevidenceforHomer.
riian1946 1 month ago
@jbulletc well we do have at least 4 accounts in the bible remembering that their variation among themselves suggest independence. Remember too that these weren't 'in a bible' as we know it until the early AD390s. Before that they first circulated as oral tradition. Remembering too that other gospel accounts also existed (eg Gospel to the Hebrews) which didn't get into the canon of scripture. The so-called parallel with Horus is non-existent. See below.
riian1946 1 month ago
@riian1946 I wouldnt go that far. Especially when you consider that there isnt a single account of the life of Jesus outside the Bible. And there are other gods like mithra and horus that share characteristics such as, being born on dec 25, born of a virgin, lived as resurrected, and these god are older than the bible. that combined with unknown authorship and no original copies tells me that the Bible is most likely a fabrication.
jbulletc 1 month ago
@jbulletc ok I've looked at wiki and I'll accept your 'majority of scholars' contention as far as this article goes. However even this mentions front rank scholars who don't accept what the majority say. Many scholars are sceptics who derive from the Enlightenment and are hardly unbiased regarding these matters. We do know that the early church did accept John's authorship. Surely people living in the1st & 2ndC are much more reliable than the conjectures of today's scholars?
riian1946 1 month ago
Why doesn't God heal amputees?
Undeterminable 1 month ago
@riian1946 If you wanna use wiki, then i will too. Just look up authorship of john on wiki. It doesnt matter what the church believes. Scholars dont know who wrote them and even most NIV Bibles give an introduction to the gospels that reveal that the authors are unknown.
jbulletc 2 months ago
@jbulletc en. wikipedia. org.../.wiki../..Historicity.._ of _ Jesus This wiki gives a reasonably balanced view. Whoever the disciple whom Jesus loved was-the early church believed it was John-he was an eye-witness and I would be interested to know from where you get this 'majority of scholars' contention. Jn 5.2 talks about 5 porticoes. Sceptical scholars pounced on this reference because nothing was then known about the porticoes. And then they were found!! So Jn was correct after all
riian1946 2 months ago