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An interesting statistic in the U.S. is that when the Wall Street Crash happened in 1929 the 1% owned 24% of the wealth of the nation. In 2008 when the economy crashed again the 1% also owned 24% of the wealth of the nation. Interesting coincidence.
Even now the elite are trying to solidify their hold on the wealth they have acquired by using their political power through the Republican party to deregulate and protect the low taxation of the 1%.
Hints of the French Revolution are here now.
MyGodTheresNoGod 1 month ago 5
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It's all about power through wealth. The French Revolution was class warfare. In the years preceding it, the wealthy elite acted in ways to retain their wealth at the expense of the powerless.
Instead they ignored the inequality in their society and took measures to reinforce this inequality to the point that the population had said enough. The violence was necessary and beneficial in ushering in a more just and equitable life for millions. Progress can be very bloody.
MyGodTheresNoGod 1 month ago 3
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Amen..
88bottlesoflove 6 days ago
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"I didn't hear him advocating violence, but that certain non-violent movements are not effective."
That's interesting that your perceptions are so different from 2b's. That's why I think it would've been helpful if 2b's provided some direct quotes from Gary to support her allegations that he advocates violence.
(I haven't watched the interview yet, so have no opinion on the matter.)
carmel1119 1 month ago
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Violence now days is not like violence of old days. Violence in old times was based on equal technology a knife a musket and later a gun. But now days you can not expect equal technology. Violence is a failure in todays setting. Organizing and reorganizing, replacing old corporations with new that serve employees and customers are the ways of the future. Violence is a way to invite the demise of the movement.
JusticeIsWhere 1 month ago
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Violence only seems to have created more problems in this world. If violence solved everyone's problems, wars would probably not have to be fought anymore. But, the people in power in this world, seem to be unfortunately caught in this cycle of greed.
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A quote from Gary from, the video you linked:
"Using violence to aggressively do something is evil. Using violence to stop evil is not evil, obviously, and I'm totally opposed to violence. It's a last resort weapon." - Gary
2b, I think this video is extraordinarily misleading and could even be seen as slanderous, unless you have some direct quotes that counter these statements?
carmel1119 1 month ago
@carmel1119
I read your emotional PM. I have no interest in communicating with you or with going through any more of the minutiae of Gary's eradicate inconsistent ramblings. If you think he makes sense and that what he says is anything but abusive angry nonsense, then just keep watching him. I have no interest in see one more second of him or his videos.
2bsirius 3 weeks ago
@2bsirius
If by "emotional" you mean friendly, calm and rational, then I'd have to agree. :)
Whether you watch Gary's vids or not is of no concern to me whatsoever. What does concern me, however is that you made an accusation that you have yet to provide evidence for which leads me to the conclusion that this video is merely an attempt at a negative smear campaign against him. It's really quite a reasonable assumption on my part.
carmel1119 3 weeks ago
@carmel1119 I am not engaged in any campaigns. You don't like the truth. Which is your prerogative . It does not change the fact that human beings were died because a large corporation, I G Farben, sold poison gas, Zyklon B, to the Nazis, and the fact is that gas was used to kill vast numbers of human beings. The person you want to claim as a hero denied that. He should be ashamed. He is not. Sad but true. If you were " friendly, calm and rational" you would not be defending his actions.
2bsirius 3 weeks ago
@2bsirius
"the truth" is what I'm seeking, which is why I requested quotes from you. As I already expressed, I only judge people's ideologies based upon direct observation or quotes, not hearsay or gossip. It's a reasonable request, but if you don't want to substantiate your claims then, so be it.
Take Care.
carmel1119 2 weeks ago
@carmel1119 I have repeatedly substantiated my claims. I don't have to do so again for you. If you want to believe Gary's emotional nonsense, please feel free.
2bsirius 2 weeks ago