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(3 of 13) THE ART MARKET IS LESS ETHICAL THAN THE STOCK MARKET: CHUCK CLOSE

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The goal of IQ2 US is to raise the level of public discourse on our most challenging issues. To provide a new forum for intelligent discussion, grounded in facts and informed by reasoned analysis. To transcend the toxically emotional and the reflexively ideological. To encourage recognition that the opposing side has intellectually respectable views. To engage the live audience as active participants who will ask questions and decide which speakers have carried the day by voting on the motions both before and after the debate.

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  • art is a business

  • @C4ContemporaryArt dis nees be up n top cmmnces

  • "There are no charlatans" - Correct if referring to artists, they are mostly unfortunate individuals who can't even handle a simple job. Art dealers though... I would say a HUGE % of that group went into the art market because they were too scared to become drug dealers. They realized the art market was a "legal" business where thay can scam people BIG TIME and get away with it unharmed... PURE CHARLATANS!

  • "There are no undiscovered geniuses." Thats a very safe comment.

  • Chuck Close's statements reflect an undistilled mixture of romanticism (the ultimste judgement of other artists), Catholicism (no undiscovered geniuses), condescension (the subtext being that he himself is a genius and thus 'discovered'). None of what he said answers the problem of unethical art market practiced. He only celebrated his own success--the apparent heir of Bougeureau.

  • Words of wisdom. Chuck Close speaks very clearly about the speculation in art.

    The conclusion is phenomenal - In the end the other artists will judge your work, and it is this that will or will not make your art long lasting, and of value (in my words)

  • @Artsultan mmm I think your missing the point

  • The art world is not a business? How many top contemporary artists are now creating works in a factory-like system, employing hordes of art proles who slave away producing the "artist's" work? Oh, that's not a business.

    Mr. Close, who stumbled into his gimmick in the mid-60's (giant blow-ups) and has been regurgitating it ever since, is, of course, not a part of this business model, right?

  • The art world is a meritocracy? Was that a joke? It only takes a two minute trip to Chelsea or Williamsburg to confirm that it is largely made up of rich dilettantes and pretty brats -- no merit there, unless by "merit" he was referring to the skill and effort it takes to claw your way into the art world.

  • I thought it was good. I'd LIKE to think that the 'no undiscovered genius' comment that people seem offended by was actually a cynical one - referring to the mechanism of the manufacture of geniuses... meaning that one cannot have a 'genius' (specious term at best) UNLESS one is RECOGNIZED through mass consensus as such, independent of how gifted they actually ARE.

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