@cowboyfan1113 Finally, you are an ignorant bully. I have seen the comments you've made to others, telling them they're "full of hate" too. YOU are the one full of HATE, because YOU think you're qualified to tell others they "need help," they're "wrong," etc. Supply facts, not insults, for better results. By the way, you hypocrite, spouting ignorant bullshit at people doesn't help them, it alienates them. Consider our "conversation" over.
@cowboyfan1113 Actually, you are going to argue, that's what you're here for. You started this conversation with me when you criticized a simple comment I made on a video-not directed at anyone, just the idiotic institution of AA. I wasn't talking to you, it was none of your business. Now you're going to tell me I'm wrong-thieves, rapists, and the wicked founders of AA are just "imperfect people?" I guess Charles Manson and Hitler were the same. I left for very good reasons, and they stand.
@redlisab I am not going to argue about AA, i am not a member. I have attended meetings years ago but i used other ways to stay sober. As far as members of AA being thieves, rapists etc. I dont doubt that there are imperfect people in AA. You will find people like that in any group. But you act like every one in AA is evil??? No ...you are wrong. Sorry but there are good people in AA with good intentions. A good friend of mine is an AA member, dont agree with everything he says but he's not evil
@redlisab Very full of hate you are. Not an AA member so I am not sure what you are referring to as "my teachings". And i have never said alcoholism is a disease, its not....cancer is a disease. So i do not agree with AAs teachings. I said that you were full of hate because every word you say is an attack upon others....you are insulting my IQ but so be it. If attacking AA helps you to stay sober than go for it. Sorry i offended you and good luck with your sobriety. Please help others stay sober
@cowboyfan1113 Further, as a person who spent many years in the cult-religion of AA, I have seen the kind of people they turn out, and it's pretty bad. There are child-molesters, rapists, 13th-steppers, terrorists, and thieves. They protect these people by their silence. Their success rate is 5%, which is exactly the same as drunkards in the general populace who successfully quit on their own. I was smart enough to question their nonsense, get away from their insanity, and yes, I'm SOBER.
@cowboyfan1113 My response about your IQ has nothing to do with my state of mind in my sobriety, but rather was a scathing rebuke against your handing out advice to others you know nothing about, simply based on your own experience and teachings regarding what you believe is a disease; and which I now believe is behavior. You also took it upon yourself to tell others they were full of hate, simply because they choose to question the religion of AA/disease model which is questionable at best.
@redlisab My comment was posted out of concern with someone saying they are cured. You are right, i do know you however I do know alcoholism and drug addiction, lost my father to alcoholism. I am simply someone who hates what drugs and alcohol do to people. Actually i do know about the founders of AA, they were imperfect humans just like me, we all have faults. I will not respond to your comments trashing my IQ as that simply shows me what state of mind you are in with your sobriety.
@cowboyfan1113 Why don't you take your half-baked, illiterate bullshit, and go foist it on someone with an IQ as low as yours. You don't even know me, or anything about me, so how on earth can you be qualified to comment on whether or not I'm cured. I also never mentioned addiction, simply the fact that I don't drink anymore. So you're attempting to put words in my mouth. Learn some history about the founders of AA, then come back and comment when you know something. Ciao.
@redlisab Never been an AA member, former crack addict and drunk been sober 12 years and you say you are cured!! If you are cured than 1. maybe you werent truly an alcoholic or 2. you are falsely believing this that you have conquered alcoholism. Hopefully its #1 because if you believe that you were cured of addiction than you are at a scary place. During my 12 years there have been a few times i thought i was cured only to be reminded that I am 1 step away from going thru the hell of addiction
@redlisab I will sure miss our conversations. It was a pleasure conversing with you. Wish you the best in your sobriety and life.
cowboyfan1113 1 year ago
@cowboyfan1113 Finally, you are an ignorant bully. I have seen the comments you've made to others, telling them they're "full of hate" too. YOU are the one full of HATE, because YOU think you're qualified to tell others they "need help," they're "wrong," etc. Supply facts, not insults, for better results. By the way, you hypocrite, spouting ignorant bullshit at people doesn't help them, it alienates them. Consider our "conversation" over.
redlisab 1 year ago
@cowboyfan1113 Actually, you are going to argue, that's what you're here for. You started this conversation with me when you criticized a simple comment I made on a video-not directed at anyone, just the idiotic institution of AA. I wasn't talking to you, it was none of your business. Now you're going to tell me I'm wrong-thieves, rapists, and the wicked founders of AA are just "imperfect people?" I guess Charles Manson and Hitler were the same. I left for very good reasons, and they stand.
redlisab 1 year ago
@redlisab I am not going to argue about AA, i am not a member. I have attended meetings years ago but i used other ways to stay sober. As far as members of AA being thieves, rapists etc. I dont doubt that there are imperfect people in AA. You will find people like that in any group. But you act like every one in AA is evil??? No ...you are wrong. Sorry but there are good people in AA with good intentions. A good friend of mine is an AA member, dont agree with everything he says but he's not evil
cowboyfan1113 1 year ago
@redlisab Very full of hate you are. Not an AA member so I am not sure what you are referring to as "my teachings". And i have never said alcoholism is a disease, its not....cancer is a disease. So i do not agree with AAs teachings. I said that you were full of hate because every word you say is an attack upon others....you are insulting my IQ but so be it. If attacking AA helps you to stay sober than go for it. Sorry i offended you and good luck with your sobriety. Please help others stay sober
cowboyfan1113 1 year ago
@cowboyfan1113 Further, as a person who spent many years in the cult-religion of AA, I have seen the kind of people they turn out, and it's pretty bad. There are child-molesters, rapists, 13th-steppers, terrorists, and thieves. They protect these people by their silence. Their success rate is 5%, which is exactly the same as drunkards in the general populace who successfully quit on their own. I was smart enough to question their nonsense, get away from their insanity, and yes, I'm SOBER.
redlisab 1 year ago
@cowboyfan1113 My response about your IQ has nothing to do with my state of mind in my sobriety, but rather was a scathing rebuke against your handing out advice to others you know nothing about, simply based on your own experience and teachings regarding what you believe is a disease; and which I now believe is behavior. You also took it upon yourself to tell others they were full of hate, simply because they choose to question the religion of AA/disease model which is questionable at best.
redlisab 1 year ago
@redlisab My comment was posted out of concern with someone saying they are cured. You are right, i do know you however I do know alcoholism and drug addiction, lost my father to alcoholism. I am simply someone who hates what drugs and alcohol do to people. Actually i do know about the founders of AA, they were imperfect humans just like me, we all have faults. I will not respond to your comments trashing my IQ as that simply shows me what state of mind you are in with your sobriety.
cowboyfan1113 1 year ago
@cowboyfan1113 Why don't you take your half-baked, illiterate bullshit, and go foist it on someone with an IQ as low as yours. You don't even know me, or anything about me, so how on earth can you be qualified to comment on whether or not I'm cured. I also never mentioned addiction, simply the fact that I don't drink anymore. So you're attempting to put words in my mouth. Learn some history about the founders of AA, then come back and comment when you know something. Ciao.
redlisab 1 year ago
@redlisab Never been an AA member, former crack addict and drunk been sober 12 years and you say you are cured!! If you are cured than 1. maybe you werent truly an alcoholic or 2. you are falsely believing this that you have conquered alcoholism. Hopefully its #1 because if you believe that you were cured of addiction than you are at a scary place. During my 12 years there have been a few times i thought i was cured only to be reminded that I am 1 step away from going thru the hell of addiction
cowboyfan1113 1 year ago