On the other hand there are also people in Galicia that don't feel Spanish, however minority they are, the Galician sense of belongiong is totally unrelated to the acceptance of belonging to a Spanish state...which does not mean they hold any bitterness against anyone. History is never motionless and we are still in the long aftermath of a fascist dictatorship.
The US is made up of states which not formed a nation at the time of joining the union, they are just geographic lines made up mostly by colonists, but except for the native peoples -which in strict sense are real nations- the US are a nation formed by different states (exactly the opposite as in Europe).
Galicia has its own language, its well-defined cultural identity and distinctive character,its own economical and physical geography and history. so Galicia is a stateless nation (same as Wales or Scotland). Spain is a state or a nation-state, which as the UK (Scotland, Wales etc) and France (Brittany, Corsega, etc).
No probs, when I talk about nations I'm not talking about nation-states or just states. These are totally different ideas and differ from Europe (where the "nation" concept originated) to other parts of the world, especially the Americas.
@Maeloch And sorry for calling you dumb lol i got over-excited there... But yea, it's all semantics... Galicians are Galicians but they're also Spanish.... whether they like it or not.
@Maeloch Look man, it's all semantics alright.....
in reality Galicia, Basque Country, and Catalonia are part of Spain. You don't refer to people from California as Californian-Americans do you? Exactly... Plus, I've been to Galicia plenty of times and in general, the people there are happy and proud to belong to Spain. Yes they were all once upon a time individual nations, but now-a-days it's all part of the Kingdom of Spain.
Spanish-Galician is confusing bcause just Galician would b enough to convey the meaning of a nation called Galicia as opposed to a (Castillian-Andalusian based) Spanish nation.Would you use Welsh-English referred to a Carmarthen cultural xpression?The UK is a state made up of nations,in theory same as Spain, but one of them (the axis Castile-Andalusia) see itself as the core of Spain, so whereas Galicia, Catalonia, Basque Country and Asturias are Iberian nations, not sure about their Spanishness
Not need to rant abuse mate. I said that Galicia is not Spain (but obviously it is "officially" part of the Kingdom of Spain) as Ireland is not part of England (even though a part of Ireland is officially part of the UK). I am just trying to differentiate nationhood from political circumstances.
Como gallego reinvidico mi condición de español hasta la médula. Fuera separatas VIVA ESPAÑA
genitorey 4 months ago
On the other hand there are also people in Galicia that don't feel Spanish, however minority they are, the Galician sense of belongiong is totally unrelated to the acceptance of belonging to a Spanish state...which does not mean they hold any bitterness against anyone. History is never motionless and we are still in the long aftermath of a fascist dictatorship.
Maeloch 1 year ago
The US is made up of states which not formed a nation at the time of joining the union, they are just geographic lines made up mostly by colonists, but except for the native peoples -which in strict sense are real nations- the US are a nation formed by different states (exactly the opposite as in Europe).
Maeloch 1 year ago
Galicia has its own language, its well-defined cultural identity and distinctive character,its own economical and physical geography and history. so Galicia is a stateless nation (same as Wales or Scotland). Spain is a state or a nation-state, which as the UK (Scotland, Wales etc) and France (Brittany, Corsega, etc).
Maeloch 1 year ago
No probs, when I talk about nations I'm not talking about nation-states or just states. These are totally different ideas and differ from Europe (where the "nation" concept originated) to other parts of the world, especially the Americas.
Maeloch 1 year ago
@Maeloch And sorry for calling you dumb lol i got over-excited there... But yea, it's all semantics... Galicians are Galicians but they're also Spanish.... whether they like it or not.
RedFacedApe 1 year ago
@Maeloch Look man, it's all semantics alright.....
in reality Galicia, Basque Country, and Catalonia are part of Spain. You don't refer to people from California as Californian-Americans do you? Exactly... Plus, I've been to Galicia plenty of times and in general, the people there are happy and proud to belong to Spain. Yes they were all once upon a time individual nations, but now-a-days it's all part of the Kingdom of Spain.
RedFacedApe 1 year ago
Spanish-Galician is confusing bcause just Galician would b enough to convey the meaning of a nation called Galicia as opposed to a (Castillian-Andalusian based) Spanish nation.Would you use Welsh-English referred to a Carmarthen cultural xpression?The UK is a state made up of nations,in theory same as Spain, but one of them (the axis Castile-Andalusia) see itself as the core of Spain, so whereas Galicia, Catalonia, Basque Country and Asturias are Iberian nations, not sure about their Spanishness
Maeloch 1 year ago
Not need to rant abuse mate. I said that Galicia is not Spain (but obviously it is "officially" part of the Kingdom of Spain) as Ireland is not part of England (even though a part of Ireland is officially part of the UK). I am just trying to differentiate nationhood from political circumstances.
Maeloch 1 year ago
@Maeloch LOL Are you dumb? Ireland is not part of the UNITED KINGDOM (not England)... But Northern Ireland is..... And so is scotland and wales
RedFacedApe 1 year ago