A Challenge for Intelligent Design: The Discovery Institute responds

Casey Luskin of the Discover Institute responded to our challenge.
Original video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzshC-rCXSE
Not with any evidence of design, but with an explanation of why they aren't looking for it.
The DI response can be found here:
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/05/does_any_critic_out_there_unde.html
You can also read:
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/pz-myers-throws-down-a-gaun...
http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2009/05/most-dangerous-kind-of-religion.html

Category:

Science & Technology

Tags:

• Intelligent
• Design
• Evolution
• Casey
• Luskin
• Discovery
• Institute
• challenge
• Michael
• Behe
• Irreducible
• Complexity
• test
• genetic
• genomic
• protein
• homology

[ozzycriss]

The high darwinists have a inner religion , man is imperfect , a building block , that they will perfect thru science . These creeps are nt going to take you along for the ride , your the booster stage of there rocket , just a stage in there perfection . There laying the ground work for the next stage . They call themselves ,the stones(rocks) the builder rejected . They had to knock down any notion of intelligent design , this was a hurdle . So now tinkering with human cloning ect starts .

[C0nc0rdance]

@ozzycriss

Stage 2 of our Evil Plan is to clone the Tyrannosaurus Rex. Stage 3 is to develop laser guns that can instantly vaporize a car at 50 yards. Then... Stage 4: muhahahahaha... Profit!

[benthemiester]

Thanks for your lessons on grammar but I don't edit responses on youtube.There are correlations that can be drawn from C value paradox. One of these is that kingdoms that have always been considered simpler than humans can have larger genomes than humans by orders of magnitude. T Gregeory Ryan has written a few articles on this. There also seems to be a correlation between the amount of noncoding regions, but the junk DNA paradigm has also changed. Complexity cant be determined genetically.

[C0nc0rdance]

@benthemiester

I don't know how you measure "complexity" at all. Number of cells? Number of tissues? I don't know any biologists that would think in those terms. Bacteria are smaller, more specialized, but also a lot more adaptable than we are.

The C value paradox is about selectable loci vs. haploid genome complement. You seem to be misunderstanding what it has to say. Perhaps a textbook would help?

Can you name a non-eukaryote that has a larger genome than Homo sapiens?

[benthemiester]

Negative cross chemical reactions are really never spoken of when people speak of these experiments. That is why no one just haphazardly just throws a bunch of assumed chemicals of pre-biotic earth together and stir them up. It doesn't work that way. There has to be controlled laboratory conditions involved. If you understand the in vitro selection process I shouldn't have to explain it to you. The reality of negative chemical reactions in a primordial soup world cannot be overlooked.

[C0nc0rdance]

@benthemiester

I'm not getting what you mean here. Perhaps you can cite a paper that addresses these "negative cross chemical reactions" and why they prevent the emergence of self-catalytic ribozymes.

You seem to think that scientists are trying to create life in a test tube by self-assembly of random chemicals. I think that would be exceedingly unlikely and quite futile. Most, I imagine, are testing certain starting points and seeing if the next step is possible or blocked.

[NUTCASE71733]

@ozzycriss

You are a monumental twat.

[ThePuzzler81]

@ozzycriss

Are you a retard?

[schraughts]

Casey Luskin responded to this video at youtube com watch v fnEKX2SyWLk . 

[pebi86]

There is indeed a difference between having beliefs and mandating that your beliefs be taught in public schools.

And you help indoctrinating everyone with atheistic or at least agnosic world views not only in public school.

[BladedArrowTBGamer]

@C0nc0rdance stage 5 is profit. there is NO stage for >:]

[grimordwow]

Very good video. Subscribed! Gotta get some sleep now but I'll be sure to check your other vids tomorrow. Keep up the good work, mate! :)

[TerrencePhillip66]

@C0nc0rdance Creationists is how they go from 'order' to 'complexity' as if they are talking about the same thing. If you apply their laughable 'neat room/messy room' kind of order to Macbeth, you could make it more orderly by grouping of the a's together, all of the b's and so on to the z's. Then do the same with the punctuation marks. The characters that make up Macbeth are now much more 'orderly' by creationist standards. And the complexity of characters that made up the play Macbeth is gone.

[jmg94j]

Actually if modern biologists are Darwinists, then Luskin and all of his ilk should be called Johnsonists. It was another lawyer with no education in biology, Berkley Law proffessor Phillip E. Johnson that coined and popularized the term "Intelligent Design".

[pyr666]

@C0nc0rdance

no no no, stage 4 is to attach the lasers to the T-rex.

stage FIVE is profit.

get it together man!