The Height of Arrogance.

I would like that no one be ignorant of the History of the Bible.
No matter what translations you have they all came from an origin.
Some may have been translations of translations of translations.
But there origin, there Original came from the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek.

Now we may not all take the time to go back and check what the Original says.
But we can research the scriptures meanings in the Original to better understand what it is saying.
I hope that we do not become so arrogant that we shun and reject the people that are looking up the Original words and text.
And God forbid, that we do not become so arrogant that we stop seeking the Truth because we feel we all ready have it.
For that would be the Height of Arrogance.
........................................... So many times when talking about the Bible people bring up what they say is errors but the errors are not in the Original text they are Mistranslations yes mistakes man made when translating the Original tongues to English. But if you even say mistranslation in a church of today, they really get upset and clam that there English version is perfect and that only there English version is inspired by God. When there vary English version tells them to trust no man, this is including translators. so if you want to make sure by Gods word you are walking the right path you better make sure you know what it says.
KJV Psalm 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

this is a few quotes from a site with the preface of the KJV of the bible.
http://www.kjvbibles.com/kjpreface.htm
To the most high and mightie Prince, James by the grace of God
King of Great Britaine, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith , &c.

http://www.ccel.org/bible/kjv/preface/thesis.htm
Not only do most readers of the King James Version suppose it to be the original English Bible; they are actually unconscious that there is any more ultimate form of the Bible to translate or consult. A leading layman, in one of our most intellectual communions, has told me that he always supposed the modern translations of the Bible were made from the King James Version, and not long ago a newspaper paragraph, with the commanding endorsement of the Associated Press, explicitly made that assertion. The same idea appeared in the New Republic as recently as April of last year. What can save these untrained, well-meaning people from the idea that the King James Bible is the "original"? Nothing but the statements of its own Preface.

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[aviansoul]

Food for thought CRJarvis: Jesus most likely spoke in a language called Aramaic, which was the lingua franca during his life time. The Peshitta is the New Testament recorded by Aramaic speaking peoples at the same time as the Western New Testament - some believe the writers of the New Testament wrote in Aramaic, then the Peshitta was translated to Greek. Remember, as Jesus said - ask, seek, and knock. Enjoy the journey... Peace to you

[CRJarvis]

the Old Hebrew (Paleo-Hebrew) became the Hebrew, and Aramaic. so both came from the Old Hebrew. they where vary close.

kind of like hand writing and print.

now I know they have been pulled far from that now.

but we know Jesus knew Hebrew he is quoted speaking Hebrew. he also spoke Aramaic and some Greek.

[CRJarvis]

there are programs out that help with this.

Bible Works is vary good.

what i really want is a standared translation.

where one hebrew word is translated in to the same english word or words every time it is used and not in to diffrent words.

[CRJarvis]

@jharv01 KJV Mark 9:23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

so are you saying Learning the Hebrew is impossible unto you?

Matthew 17:20 ("and nothing shall be impossible unto you.")

[CRJarvis]

In the Old T. the word Hell is (sheol)meaning Grave or resting place of the Dead. Sometimes the KJV translate this in to Hell and sometimes to Grave and sometimes to PIT. if the Hebrew word is the same then the english words should be the same every time.

and people wonder why the KJV is hard to understand:

the word "hell" is in the KJV 54 times.

"Pit" is in the KJV 88 times.

"Grave" is in the KJV 67 times 68 if you count "grave's"

in the Hebrew word (sheol) is in the OT 394 times.

[jharv01]

Ahhh gotcha, but if I could read those other languages, I would.. alas I can not. So I am kind of stuck reading it... in English.

[CRJarvis]

people think i am attacking the KJV but i am not only wanting you to know where the KJV came from. and if you do not understand what it is saying you can go back and see what the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek say. also KJ is not GOD. and the KJV is not the only inspired word of GOD.

[jharv01]

*Different backgrounds*

[jharv01]

47 scholars, divided into 6 groups, worked on the translation of the KJV. Most of those 47 from different to prevent error and biased. The KJV is now printed in more languages than I thought every thing from Chinese to English.

So no, you do not have to learn English to read the KJV. With todays technology and translators, nothing will be lost in translation. Besides the KJV is the ONLY way to go! The NIV , NSAB, etc. are missing to much information. Mark 11:26 for instance. Not in NIV.

[CRJarvis]

you can translate and twist it.

the hebrew contains more informations then the english KJV.

the Sex of the speaker male femail and nuter.

where the KJV took most of its work from william tyndale new testament. and he did a vary good job. so much so the Church wanted to put power back in to the Churches hands and made the KJV to give them power over the people again. and do a way with william tyndale's NT