Cudillero-Cuideiru - Asturias-Asturies - Spain

During September 24th, 2006, I visited CUDILLERO. In Asturian language: CUIDEIRU

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• cudillero
• cuideiru
• asturies
• asturias
• spain
• españa

[albert19441]

@casalivan

1.- To you dictionaries and semantic are useless because words mean according to your desire, so to you USA nation was bult by the sioux or cherokee or whatever you decide. 2.- Apart means separate from a distance and Catalonia (a Mediterranean country) and Asturias (bathed by the Cantabrian Sea) are not even neighbours since there are Aragon, La Rioja, Navarra and the Basque Country between.

[casalivan]

@albert19441 You said the catalan nation is oldest than the Asturian, and thats not true, thats why i've answered you with the facts, that Asturias has been a nation/kindom (call it whatever u like, since no term will be ever precise enough) for a long time before Catalonia would even exist. You can't say their job of fighting the muslims was done apart from us, since we are the first who dared to fight the saracen.

[albert19441]

@casalivan

You are the obscene one because it is YOURS that is trying to compare between Asturian and Catalonian history and it is you that mock Catalan nationalisme. This is your obscenity. All I said before was "The job to defeat the muslims in that part of the Iberian Peninsula was done completely apart from the Asturian people" If I say "apart" it does mean that has nothing to do with your kindom, not nation. And this means I did not lower Asturies, so you are unfair and the obscene one.

[casalivan]

@albert19441 I have nothing against catalonian people or nation,but i find obscene the cmparison btween Asturian and Catalonian history,keepin in mind that we the Asturians have always lived here,even when the romans came they wrote about us in their chornicles. What did Estrabon or Plinio write about Catalonia? Nothing, because it didn't exist back then, unlike us. If catalonians want ur freedom its ok with me,but stop bashing othr nations history like mine,especially when its greater than urs

[albert19441]

@casalivan

6.- I sould add that my videos about my visit to Asturies was made with love. 7.- I wish freedom and liberty for Catalonia and I know that to reach this it is necessary the fight of all the Iberian countries, but I think that it will no be successful with people that think and feel like you.

[albert19441]

@casalivan

3.- It is shameful that if you regard yourself as a Asturian nationalist you prefer ot compete with a Catalonian than a Castilian one. 4.- You do not say anything about Catalonia literature and though you do not want to say anything about books the fact is that for the last 500 years books have being printed in Catalan and in the 15th Century was already translated and printed in Catalan the Divina Comedia. 5.- Don't forget that part of Catalonia is in France.

[albert19441]

@casalivan

1.- When you say asturina nation you should have said asturian kingdom 2.- Being a nation is not something given by God and a king is anointed by God. A country becomes a nation because its people have such a sense of liberty and Catalonia fought the Spanish King Philip V because such send and if you make fun -as you did- of such sense you behave like Hitler since you mock other people's fight for their liberty, something that I would not do it.

[casalivan]

@albert19441 LOL u wishful. When the great Asturina nation was in its greates expansion in the 7th century. Where was the "catalonian nation" ? LOL u have such a short history, having more books written doesn't make your history longer. u can publish 1 trillion books that the catalonian history will be alwas the short it is, sadly for u.

[albert19441]

@casalivan

All you say about Catalonia is not true and I am not going to give you details because there are more history books of Catalonia than of Asturian, but I can say that philosophy was written in Catalan before any Iberian language, that Barcelona had chambers of commerce in all Mediterranean ports before 15th Century, and the first Law maritime book was in Catalan (before the English). The Spanish flag comes from the Catalan one and that the Catalan nation is older than Asturian.

[casalivan]

@albert19441 CAtalonian region (it was never a country unlike Asturias that was a kingdom for centuries) would existe way after the King Pelayo, many many centuries later. When the asturians were a free country the catalonians didnt' exist yet, they were simply part of the islamic world. Catalonia has no history at all compared to Asturias, Galicia or the Basque Country. Actually catalonian nationalism is just as ridiculous as the spanish one.