@oneMadCow8154 Once, again, I am not "wasting everybody's time". If rational debate doesn't float your boat, by all means go elsewhere and don't read the comments. If you stick to one point of view only and refuse to acknowledge other people's, and say that they are merely being ignorant, you will merely becomes more and more entrenched in your views and more narrow-minded. Here's a view from a slightly different perspective, from an left-wing UK paper:
@oneMadCow8154 I'm not calling anyone stupid, but when you encourage black people to see every single thing as racism, as Elliott does, you propagate a victim mentality which makes people much more paranoid and makes them see racism where there is none. It's an almost subconscious thing which does not require stupidity. You also unfairly demonise the actions of honest, non-discriminating white people and yes, that is what Elliott does and yes, that is a form of racism. continued
@oneMadCow8154 Not at all. I never denied that racism exists nor that it is prevalent in the USA. But Elliott grew up at a time when EVERYONE was racist, north/south/wherever. There were exceptions, but they were few. Racism is far from eradicated these days, but it is certainly much diminished from the 1960s when Elliott started her exercise.
You see Michael; this is why I hesitated in responding to you in the first place. By saying Mrs. Elliott loses value in today's " much less racist world", you are implying that people of color are too STUPID to separate fiction from reality, and are just imagining racism that doesn't really exist: probably because we just LOVE playing the "race card". Right?
Here is an example of your "much less racist world".
@oneMadCow8154 Also, going back to the original point you made - no, in this video when Elliott says "act white" she means "make others feel inferior, act racist and superior".
@oneMadCow8154 In today's increasingly tolerant world, such messages exacerbate, not diminish, racial tensions, by encouraging white guilt (often unjustified) and black victim mentality (also unfounded) - this leads both races to be suspicious of one another, rather than learning that skin-deep differences really mean nothing and should be TOTALLY irrelevant during all day-to-day interactions.
@oneMadCow8154 And once you change the exercise in that way, it loses much of its value in today's much less racist world. The message "you shouldn't discriminate, this is what it feels like" is a wonderful message which we should spread; but increasingly Elliott's message has been "white people are inherently racist", and "this is what it feels like to be black". continued
@oneMadCow8154 And here's another very perceptive analysis: davidthompson. typepad .com/davidthompson/2009/10/i-sense-a-malign-presence-.html
michael99887766 3 months ago
@oneMadCow8154 guardian. co. uk/culture/2009/oct/18/racism-psychology-jane-elliott-4
michael99887766 3 months ago
@oneMadCow8154 Once, again, I am not "wasting everybody's time". If rational debate doesn't float your boat, by all means go elsewhere and don't read the comments. If you stick to one point of view only and refuse to acknowledge other people's, and say that they are merely being ignorant, you will merely becomes more and more entrenched in your views and more narrow-minded. Here's a view from a slightly different perspective, from an left-wing UK paper:
michael99887766 3 months ago
@oneMadCow8154 I'm not calling anyone stupid, but when you encourage black people to see every single thing as racism, as Elliott does, you propagate a victim mentality which makes people much more paranoid and makes them see racism where there is none. It's an almost subconscious thing which does not require stupidity. You also unfairly demonise the actions of honest, non-discriminating white people and yes, that is what Elliott does and yes, that is a form of racism. continued
michael99887766 3 months ago
@oneMadCow8154 Not at all. I never denied that racism exists nor that it is prevalent in the USA. But Elliott grew up at a time when EVERYONE was racist, north/south/wherever. There were exceptions, but they were few. Racism is far from eradicated these days, but it is certainly much diminished from the 1960s when Elliott started her exercise.
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michael99887766 3 months ago
@michael99887766
You see Michael; this is why I hesitated in responding to you in the first place. By saying Mrs. Elliott loses value in today's " much less racist world", you are implying that people of color are too STUPID to separate fiction from reality, and are just imagining racism that doesn't really exist: probably because we just LOVE playing the "race card". Right?
Here is an example of your "much less racist world".
watch?v=eNu-WZdHzaA
Please stop wasting everyone's time.
oneMadCow8154 3 months ago
@oneMadCow8154 Also, going back to the original point you made - no, in this video when Elliott says "act white" she means "make others feel inferior, act racist and superior".
michael99887766 3 months ago
@oneMadCow8154 Because of the way Youtube posts things, you'll need to read up my comments, not down.
michael99887766 3 months ago
@oneMadCow8154 In today's increasingly tolerant world, such messages exacerbate, not diminish, racial tensions, by encouraging white guilt (often unjustified) and black victim mentality (also unfounded) - this leads both races to be suspicious of one another, rather than learning that skin-deep differences really mean nothing and should be TOTALLY irrelevant during all day-to-day interactions.
Please don't call perfectly rational argument "deliberate, intentional ignorance".
michael99887766 3 months ago
@oneMadCow8154 And once you change the exercise in that way, it loses much of its value in today's much less racist world. The message "you shouldn't discriminate, this is what it feels like" is a wonderful message which we should spread; but increasingly Elliott's message has been "white people are inherently racist", and "this is what it feels like to be black". continued
michael99887766 3 months ago