Stockhausen Klavierstuck XI (1/2)

This piece is interesting in the fact that it is performed off of a single sheet of music splattered with various passages to be chosen at a random order, and that when a single passage is repeated for the third time the performance ends.


Performed by Aloys Kontarsky.

Category:

Music

Tags:

• Kontarsky
• Stockhausen
• Klavierstuck

[TheRiteOfWinter]

Isnt this piece glorified above reason?? Because 'indeterminacy' isnt new to music, yet when it becomes a fashion like collages, it suddenly gains more attention than what it deserves. And Im not saying its crap, Im saying that other klavierstucks are comparable but none are as famous as this one because this one has a gimmick which happened to be present since centuries but became a trend in some decades.

[John11inch]

I-IV, VI, IX a X are all played much more than this.

[TheRiteOfWinter]

@John11inch Is the frequency of interpretations a good way to measure the fame of a piece? Say, his helicopter quartet must be one of his most famous pieces and it isnt played as often as others. Anyways, this piece gets into the highlights of articles and essays very often, mostly those written outside the academic ambit. Its unfair because in large its due only to the apparent resemblance to Choose Your Own Adventure in people's mind...

[John11inch]

Is the frequency of interpretation *not* a good way to measure it? What way are you measuring it, and is *that* a good way to measure it? Is your evidence empirical or admittedly and merely perceived? What are you even claiming? Do you honestly think this piece receives more attention than Kontra Punkte, Kreuzspiel, Kontakte, Momente etc? Why is that attention important, how does it correlate to the piece's quality? You answer none of these things. Not that I accept your summary of XI.

[John11inch]

Oh shit, I'm sure Stockhausen is rolling over in his grave in that someone named "Magic Dolphin", who apparently makes videos about "Meet the Spartans", doesn't understand his music. What a loss the discontention of your enormous intellect is to him.

[TheDtwix]

Got here from wikipedia ...

[lovesGenet]

It is not a gimmick. People make things according to certain paremeters and ides or the issues behind their way of doing things.when u see what Stock is going against and setting up as opposition the music can take on new life for u.Remember at this time Boulez ,Cage and Babbittt and concrete music are still influencing people. People need to know what it is they are seeing before they make comments based on older concepts& ideals.20th century art z several new worlds in itself RESPECT that

[M3zZoMiX]

hmm ich finds klanglich irgendwie eklig ...

[ParkourIstMeinLeben]

19 Tongruppen, per Zufall ausgesucht, mit Anweisungen zu spielen, die bei der vorigen Tongruppe angegeben war (Tempo, Lautstärke, Anschlagtechnik...)

schon geil!

[spyros7ssj1994]

@John11inch One of the best arguements Ive seen in all the years ive spent reading those idiotic youtube comments, thumbs up for you sir.

[nolanprokofiev565]

@MagicDolphinGO es claro que tu no conoces lo que es la verdadera música que esta detrás de esto verdad ... te recomiendo primero que vayas a leer mas acerca de la música dodecafonica y luego investigues que es el serialismo total ... ademas Debussy ya esta hace mas de un siglo, es estúpido pensar igual que hace tanto tiempo atras .... por favor lee e investiga para que sepas ... ademas, si no te gusta respeta la GENIALIDAD de este hombre

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